For a while now the transition away from Manifest V2 (MV2) to MV3 has been on-going and it looks like it is entering its final phase of deprecation, at least, in the case of Google Chrome. A recent discussion thread in the w3c WebExtensions Community Group GitHub repo has highlighted how the latest and upcoming versions of the most popular browser are expected to be its final releases with support for MV2 extensions.

What this essentially means is that the tricks and bypasses that were used to keep MV2 extensions like uBlock Origin and others alive will not work any more on Chrome, or at least not for very long. For example the Windows Registry mod that could extend MV2 availability will cease to function after Chromium version 151.

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[–] 76 points 5 months ago (73 children)

Cue the Brave shills “recommending” to switch to Brave in 5..4..3..

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    Brave is by a company who’s in the business of serving ads.

    Much like google was back in the day, they’re trying to obtain market share with a product that they can easily manipulate after the fact and rely on people not jumping ship as things get progressively worse and worse bit by bit

    Think of the “approved ads” era followed by the “enhanced security features” which made it so your block list couldn’t be updated at a moments notice and now it’s being stripped entirely.

    Better to avoid it entirely and just use Firefox or a derivative thereof

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  • [–] 41 points 5 months ago (20 children)
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    "Firefox doesn't have this one feature I like so I will keep using browser made by an ad company. I'm sure there will be no consequences long term".

    Google Chrome is killing all uBlock Origin

    "Oh shit. No one could have predicted this!".

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (9 children)

    You may have a browsing addiction if you need tab groups on mobile, wow...

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    I swear I hate tabbed browsing, because it leads to people hording tabs like a freaking squirrel hordes nuts.

    If you need it for later, book mark it.

    If you're done with it close it.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    This doesn't work when I have memory issues. That tab is open as part of my external system of memory for myself so I know what I was trying to do before one of my several issues prevented me finishing.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Bookmarks in mobile Firefox is another issue. Bookmark management is a massive chore. I end up keeping tabs around a lot longer in mobile just to avoid messing with it.

    On desktop Firefox with the Bookmark Tab Here extension (native functionality I missed from Chrome), bookmarking and organizing a new page is just two clicks. I use that workflow extensively. Apparently I have over 7000 bookmarks all organized that way.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    It's basically everything of importance or interest to me accumulated over at least a couple decades originally bookmarked in Firefox, migrated to Chrome, then later migrated back to Firefox.

    There's work stuff, recipes, tutorials, videos, music, game mods, character builds, resources saved for family and friends, recommendations, billing reminders, etc. I also use it as a more organized YouTube watchlist.

    I'm sure I could knock out 75% of my bookmarks without it being a problem, but they're organized well enough that there's little benefit to pruning it all.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (45 children)

    I would argue that if you're choosing between chrome and brave, brave is still better.

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  • [–] 48 points 5 months ago (43 children)

    Sure. Probably. But why are we choosing between Chrome and Brave?

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago (15 children)

    Firefox for my parents would result in calls every 3 days for sites that aren’t working right.

    Sorry, what? If they are so tech-illiterate that they have to call you and ask why the website is not working, then what kind of web sites are they visiting?

    Been using FF since 2022 and the only sites that wont work are the ones that utilizes HID. Are your parents trying to flash custom firmware for their phones though browser every third day?

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Been in tech longer then that (if for some reason we are doing that now) and I will officially call bullshit on that claim.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Wait, really? The access cripplers are crazily powerful add-ons for the paranoid, like NoScript, not the browser itself. Like what example websites, specifically?

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    ~25% of local news sites don’t work right (Portland metro)

    I have opened all pages on 1st page of google with a "portland news" prompt. All of them opened. Care to give some examples for testing?

    One city site for payments or reports would straight up not load in FF

    which one?

    Your-work-related sites and payment sites obviously are out of reach for me to test. But these two claims would be easy to prove, right?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Just wanna say I've had similar experiences. I don't think I'd put the number as high as 25% for myself, but my workplace's internal sites and some local/utility sites are also broken on non-Chromium browsers.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I get it that tech people stumble upon these sites much more often than non-techies. My point was that if your parents are having website issues every other day (which implies they are not tech-savvy), then why would they even visit sites that are not FF-compatible. How many sites out of all the web do you think are not compatible with FF? Give an example of a normie site that wont work well with FF.

    On the other hand, if your parents are tech-savvy then why would they ask you why a website wont load properly? Do you get it that your statement counters itself?

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    Websites that are actively malicious against firefox, that miraculously work when you have a useragent plugin that makes firefox report that its chrome proving that the site works fine, if the asshole code is removed?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    After seeing all the people talking about Vivaldi in this thread I figured I'd try it out...got to the "Panel" setup page, saw there's one for reddit, maybe I'll try adding lemmy.zip...

    Failed Cloudflare check in panel, but it worked in a tab...okay, weird.

    Thought about checking out Kagi since now privacy is on my mind...the front page would reload every 5 seconds so I couldn't read about it. It'd say "Verification failed please try again" and refresh.

    Apparently this has been an issue with Vivaldi for some time? I guess this is the future of the web? You try to escape the claws of these giant internet powerhouses and they just...don't let you?

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  • [–] 21 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    People entirely blind to the idea that they can just choose something else instead of 2 piles of shit, one of which has a cherry on top and was sprayed with perfume recently.

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  • [–] 18 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    I've only ever encountered one website where Firefox didnt work.

    and that was because the website was coded maliciously to reject firefox.. a plugin to make it think firefox was chrome and suddenly it ran fine.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    On iOS you can go on pornhub on brave and it blocks all the ads and cookie popups.

    That's one reason that uh... "someone" might use brave.

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