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Google Chrome is killing all uBlock Origin bypasses, Microsoft Edge, Opera to follow (www.neowin.net)
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For a while now the transition away from Manifest V2 (MV2) to MV3 has been on-going and it looks like it is entering its final phase of deprecation, at least, in the case of Google Chrome. A recent discussion thread in the w3c WebExtensions Community Group GitHub repo has highlighted how the latest and upcoming versions of the most popular browser are expected to be its final releases with support for MV2 extensions.

What this essentially means is that the tricks and bypasses that were used to keep MV2 extensions like uBlock Origin and others alive will not work any more on Chrome, or at least not for very long. For example the Windows Registry mod that could extend MV2 availability will cease to function after Chromium version 151.

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[+] -7 points 5 months ago (25 children)

For a lot of people, it's an easy transition.

DDG, Vivaldi, etc. harder transitions.

Firefox for my parents would result in calls every 3 days for sites that aren't working right.

I'm just saying perfect is the enemy of good.

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago (15 children)

    Firefox for my parents would result in calls every 3 days for sites that aren’t working right.

    Sorry, what? If they are so tech-illiterate that they have to call you and ask why the website is not working, then what kind of web sites are they visiting?

    Been using FF since 2022 and the only sites that wont work are the ones that utilizes HID. Are your parents trying to flash custom firmware for their phones though browser every third day?

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  • [+] -14 points 5 months ago (14 children)

    Good for you. I've been in tech for over 16 years and FF absolutely does not work well on ~25% of websites.

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Been in tech longer then that (if for some reason we are doing that now) and I will officially call bullshit on that claim.

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  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Cool. I still champion FF every chance I get, but the experience is not seamless.

    I'm glad your experience has been smooth.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Wait, really? The access cripplers are crazily powerful add-ons for the paranoid, like NoScript, not the browser itself. Like what example websites, specifically?

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  • [–] -2 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Bare MVP is ublock+ stock FF. Even allowing 3rd party cookies and...

    • ~25% of local news sites don't work right (Portland metro)
    • All internal work websites across all jobs don't work right for the past ~6 years (not counting Gusto, ADP was hit or miss depending on the function, Paylocity was OK)
    • Multiple places I've lived rental payment sites don't work
    • Portland metro utility payment sites don't load right and to fill out proper fields required weird tabbing to off-page fields and guessing what is being entered
    • One city site for payments or reports would straight up not load in FF

    Y'all can burn me at the stake all you want, I don't fucking care. I use FF daily and champion it, but to say it works 100% all the time for every site is just disingenuous.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    ~25% of local news sites don’t work right (Portland metro)

    I have opened all pages on 1st page of google with a "portland news" prompt. All of them opened. Care to give some examples for testing?

    One city site for payments or reports would straight up not load in FF

    which one?

    Your-work-related sites and payment sites obviously are out of reach for me to test. But these two claims would be easy to prove, right?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Just wanna say I've had similar experiences. I don't think I'd put the number as high as 25% for myself, but my workplace's internal sites and some local/utility sites are also broken on non-Chromium browsers.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I get it that tech people stumble upon these sites much more often than non-techies. My point was that if your parents are having website issues every other day (which implies they are not tech-savvy), then why would they even visit sites that are not FF-compatible. How many sites out of all the web do you think are not compatible with FF? Give an example of a normie site that wont work well with FF.

    On the other hand, if your parents are tech-savvy then why would they ask you why a website wont load properly? Do you get it that your statement counters itself?

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Wanna link those websites so we can see?

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    What sites are those?

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I think this is when @AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com will discreetly not answer or otherwise avoid mentioning the exact websites... (Because there are none)

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    After seeing all the people talking about Vivaldi in this thread I figured I'd try it out...got to the "Panel" setup page, saw there's one for reddit, maybe I'll try adding lemmy.zip...

    Failed Cloudflare check in panel, but it worked in a tab...okay, weird.

    Thought about checking out Kagi since now privacy is on my mind...the front page would reload every 5 seconds so I couldn't read about it. It'd say "Verification failed please try again" and refresh.

    Apparently this has been an issue with Vivaldi for some time? I guess this is the future of the web? You try to escape the claws of these giant internet powerhouses and they just...don't let you?

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