▲ 960 ▼ All downhill from there (media.piefed.social) submitted 1 year ago by marighost@piefed.social to c/science_memes@mander.xyz 90 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (12 children) How do they know youre taking them to the vet? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago The hate being picked up in general, even if there is no threat of vet, so they'll struggle to get out of my arms and if they succeed - I've lost the element of surprise. Also - I have two cats, and if I need to take both to vet then even if I manage to place one in a carrier he'll alert the other that something is wrong. permalink fedilink source parent [–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago* (10 children) Mine know that it's vet time the second i get the transport boxes out of storage. I have to be pretty silent while they sleep so they don't notice that, or else i have to use persistance predation too. e: a possible workaround is to store the transport boxes in different places everytime, but my options are limited. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Take them nice places in the box. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago I'm gonna wine and dine them next time :-) permalink fedilink source parent [–] zaperberry@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Hey I don't have cats so it might be a bit different, but I've had a few dogs over the years and I figure it would be similar. Your cats probably associate the carriers with going to the vet which it sounds like they're not a fan of. Their thought process is probably carrier = vet = no thank you. Have you tried to put them into the carrier without actually taking them to the vet? Drop some treats in there, let them explore it at their own pace, close it for a minute or two, and then either reward or praise them after release? Keep progressing to the point that treats are no longer required to lure them and they enter on their own, but still reward them on release. Rinse and repeat (and repeat and repeat and repeat). Over time they may change their attitude towards the carrier their mindset may turn into carrier = treats and praise. If they're not food motivated you may have to use alternate bait such as toys or nip. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago I often let the carriers stand outside, and they even sleep in them. i must be giving off other vibes when i take them out for the doc visit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children) No transport box. You just put blanket in your arms and pick the cat up, carry it to the car. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (4 children) we have no car and use public transport. its a short ride, about 10 minutes bus and 10 minutes walk time, or about 40 minutes walking only (while carrying a cat in a box). I didn't have a car in my entire life, because public transport in my city (Vienna) has great interval times, are nearly always clean and cheap to ride; long distance i prefer trains. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) You cant take the cat on the bus? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Just how docile are your cats? If I'd take my cats to the bus without a container I'd have to run back and forth trying to fish them from the overhead storage racks when I reach my stop. I tried releasing them in my car once, and they managed to squeeze under the driver and passenger seats. At least that was an environment fully under my control. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Its not that theyre docile, I was barely able to get one of them into the carrier with help, and it pissed in the process. Its more that in my arms theyre more afraid of everything that isnt me and if they try to escape, I can grip harder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago funnily, my mother-in-law drove us to the vet one time, and my cats puke when getting driven around. using no transport box is no option, since 2 of our cats were feral when we got them, so they know how to survive in the wild and have no issues running off into the next group of bushes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago The hate being picked up in general, even if there is no threat of vet, so they'll struggle to get out of my arms and if they succeed - I've lost the element of surprise. Also - I have two cats, and if I need to take both to vet then even if I manage to place one in a carrier he'll alert the other that something is wrong. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago* (10 children) Mine know that it's vet time the second i get the transport boxes out of storage. I have to be pretty silent while they sleep so they don't notice that, or else i have to use persistance predation too. e: a possible workaround is to store the transport boxes in different places everytime, but my options are limited. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Take them nice places in the box. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago I'm gonna wine and dine them next time :-) permalink fedilink source parent [–] zaperberry@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Hey I don't have cats so it might be a bit different, but I've had a few dogs over the years and I figure it would be similar. Your cats probably associate the carriers with going to the vet which it sounds like they're not a fan of. Their thought process is probably carrier = vet = no thank you. Have you tried to put them into the carrier without actually taking them to the vet? Drop some treats in there, let them explore it at their own pace, close it for a minute or two, and then either reward or praise them after release? Keep progressing to the point that treats are no longer required to lure them and they enter on their own, but still reward them on release. Rinse and repeat (and repeat and repeat and repeat). Over time they may change their attitude towards the carrier their mindset may turn into carrier = treats and praise. If they're not food motivated you may have to use alternate bait such as toys or nip. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago I often let the carriers stand outside, and they even sleep in them. i must be giving off other vibes when i take them out for the doc visit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children) No transport box. You just put blanket in your arms and pick the cat up, carry it to the car. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (4 children) we have no car and use public transport. its a short ride, about 10 minutes bus and 10 minutes walk time, or about 40 minutes walking only (while carrying a cat in a box). I didn't have a car in my entire life, because public transport in my city (Vienna) has great interval times, are nearly always clean and cheap to ride; long distance i prefer trains. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) You cant take the cat on the bus? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Just how docile are your cats? If I'd take my cats to the bus without a container I'd have to run back and forth trying to fish them from the overhead storage racks when I reach my stop. I tried releasing them in my car once, and they managed to squeeze under the driver and passenger seats. At least that was an environment fully under my control. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Its not that theyre docile, I was barely able to get one of them into the carrier with help, and it pissed in the process. Its more that in my arms theyre more afraid of everything that isnt me and if they try to escape, I can grip harder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago funnily, my mother-in-law drove us to the vet one time, and my cats puke when getting driven around. using no transport box is no option, since 2 of our cats were feral when we got them, so they know how to survive in the wild and have no issues running off into the next group of bushes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Take them nice places in the box. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago I'm gonna wine and dine them next time :-) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago I'm gonna wine and dine them next time :-) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zaperberry@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Hey I don't have cats so it might be a bit different, but I've had a few dogs over the years and I figure it would be similar. Your cats probably associate the carriers with going to the vet which it sounds like they're not a fan of. Their thought process is probably carrier = vet = no thank you. Have you tried to put them into the carrier without actually taking them to the vet? Drop some treats in there, let them explore it at their own pace, close it for a minute or two, and then either reward or praise them after release? Keep progressing to the point that treats are no longer required to lure them and they enter on their own, but still reward them on release. Rinse and repeat (and repeat and repeat and repeat). Over time they may change their attitude towards the carrier their mindset may turn into carrier = treats and praise. If they're not food motivated you may have to use alternate bait such as toys or nip. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago I often let the carriers stand outside, and they even sleep in them. i must be giving off other vibes when i take them out for the doc visit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago I often let the carriers stand outside, and they even sleep in them. i must be giving off other vibes when i take them out for the doc visit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children) No transport box. You just put blanket in your arms and pick the cat up, carry it to the car. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (4 children) we have no car and use public transport. its a short ride, about 10 minutes bus and 10 minutes walk time, or about 40 minutes walking only (while carrying a cat in a box). I didn't have a car in my entire life, because public transport in my city (Vienna) has great interval times, are nearly always clean and cheap to ride; long distance i prefer trains. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) You cant take the cat on the bus? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Just how docile are your cats? If I'd take my cats to the bus without a container I'd have to run back and forth trying to fish them from the overhead storage racks when I reach my stop. I tried releasing them in my car once, and they managed to squeeze under the driver and passenger seats. At least that was an environment fully under my control. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Its not that theyre docile, I was barely able to get one of them into the carrier with help, and it pissed in the process. Its more that in my arms theyre more afraid of everything that isnt me and if they try to escape, I can grip harder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago funnily, my mother-in-law drove us to the vet one time, and my cats puke when getting driven around. using no transport box is no option, since 2 of our cats were feral when we got them, so they know how to survive in the wild and have no issues running off into the next group of bushes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (4 children) we have no car and use public transport. its a short ride, about 10 minutes bus and 10 minutes walk time, or about 40 minutes walking only (while carrying a cat in a box). I didn't have a car in my entire life, because public transport in my city (Vienna) has great interval times, are nearly always clean and cheap to ride; long distance i prefer trains. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) You cant take the cat on the bus? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Just how docile are your cats? If I'd take my cats to the bus without a container I'd have to run back and forth trying to fish them from the overhead storage racks when I reach my stop. I tried releasing them in my car once, and they managed to squeeze under the driver and passenger seats. At least that was an environment fully under my control. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Its not that theyre docile, I was barely able to get one of them into the carrier with help, and it pissed in the process. Its more that in my arms theyre more afraid of everything that isnt me and if they try to escape, I can grip harder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago funnily, my mother-in-law drove us to the vet one time, and my cats puke when getting driven around. using no transport box is no option, since 2 of our cats were feral when we got them, so they know how to survive in the wild and have no issues running off into the next group of bushes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) You cant take the cat on the bus? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Just how docile are your cats? If I'd take my cats to the bus without a container I'd have to run back and forth trying to fish them from the overhead storage racks when I reach my stop. I tried releasing them in my car once, and they managed to squeeze under the driver and passenger seats. At least that was an environment fully under my control. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Its not that theyre docile, I was barely able to get one of them into the carrier with help, and it pissed in the process. Its more that in my arms theyre more afraid of everything that isnt me and if they try to escape, I can grip harder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago funnily, my mother-in-law drove us to the vet one time, and my cats puke when getting driven around. using no transport box is no option, since 2 of our cats were feral when we got them, so they know how to survive in the wild and have no issues running off into the next group of bushes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Just how docile are your cats? If I'd take my cats to the bus without a container I'd have to run back and forth trying to fish them from the overhead storage racks when I reach my stop. I tried releasing them in my car once, and they managed to squeeze under the driver and passenger seats. At least that was an environment fully under my control. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Its not that theyre docile, I was barely able to get one of them into the carrier with help, and it pissed in the process. Its more that in my arms theyre more afraid of everything that isnt me and if they try to escape, I can grip harder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago funnily, my mother-in-law drove us to the vet one time, and my cats puke when getting driven around. using no transport box is no option, since 2 of our cats were feral when we got them, so they know how to survive in the wild and have no issues running off into the next group of bushes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Its not that theyre docile, I was barely able to get one of them into the carrier with help, and it pissed in the process. Its more that in my arms theyre more afraid of everything that isnt me and if they try to escape, I can grip harder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago funnily, my mother-in-law drove us to the vet one time, and my cats puke when getting driven around. using no transport box is no option, since 2 of our cats were feral when we got them, so they know how to survive in the wild and have no issues running off into the next group of bushes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago funnily, my mother-in-law drove us to the vet one time, and my cats puke when getting driven around. using no transport box is no option, since 2 of our cats were feral when we got them, so they know how to survive in the wild and have no issues running off into the next group of bushes. permalink fedilink source parent