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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 13 points 7 months ago (10 children) Also the USA Why does everyone hate us? We are good people, nice people, nobody should hate us! permalink fedilink source hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 13 points 7 months ago (7 children) Hate the government and the people who support it, not all Americans! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Soulg@ani.social 8 points 7 months ago This is the way permalink fedilink source parent [–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 point 7 months ago Is it, though? Who voted for him? And more importantly, who did not vote at all? Because all those tards that decided for whatever reason not to vote got us here as well and with that group added, we're talking the vast majority of Americans. Add to that that the best resistance we've seen so far were the failed and sad little no kings protests... Seriously, please look at europe on how to protest. These protests in the US did squat, nothing changed, it barely hit the news anymore. So yeah, between Iranians being born into a theocratic dictatorship and Americans who could and should know better, pretending to "rule the free world", I feel Americans carry a lot more responsibility for the actions of their government than Iranians permalink fedilink source parent [–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 7 months ago (4 children) Americans have been supporting this kind of shit for decades, they're all complicit at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago (3 children) Yes, all people born into oppressive regimes that are often racistly holding them down are complicit. By that logic, the victims of apartheid states deserve it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 7 months ago (2 children) There haven't been any coups. No one has taken power by force (not since they genocided the native civilizations, at least). A vast majority of Americans have voted time and time again, for decades, for this shit, and will keep doing so if there are any elections after Taarump. Egoism, racism, imperialism, murder, child abuse, and runaway untethered capitalism are core American values. Basic principles upon which their culture is built. Don't compare them to actual victims. They reap what they sow. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) I'm trying to understand the logical conclusion of your viewpoint. Do you believe even the victims of racial oppression, often also in the form of voter suppression, are responsible for all the crimes past and present of the country they found themselves trapped in? Are you also personally responsible for any reprehensible behavior the country you were born in has committed, past or present? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago I'm responsible for the actions of the governments I vote for, and those of the governments I don't rebel against. As are American citizens. Many of the victims of racial oppression in the USA had no problem voting for Trump, or previous criminals who held offices in their government. I'm sure most of them happily voted for Obama, another mass murderer like the majority of US presidents in history. Because as all Americans they share those rotten core values, and will happily vote for anyone who'll act like a bully and harm the weak, ignoring that he'll also hurt them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 1984@lemmy.today 1 point 7 months ago Everyone means your leaders, not you. I think. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 1 point 7 months ago We totally never hurt anyone or ever intended yo hurt any. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 13 points 7 months ago (7 children) Hate the government and the people who support it, not all Americans! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Soulg@ani.social 8 points 7 months ago This is the way permalink fedilink source parent [–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 point 7 months ago Is it, though? Who voted for him? And more importantly, who did not vote at all? Because all those tards that decided for whatever reason not to vote got us here as well and with that group added, we're talking the vast majority of Americans. Add to that that the best resistance we've seen so far were the failed and sad little no kings protests... Seriously, please look at europe on how to protest. These protests in the US did squat, nothing changed, it barely hit the news anymore. So yeah, between Iranians being born into a theocratic dictatorship and Americans who could and should know better, pretending to "rule the free world", I feel Americans carry a lot more responsibility for the actions of their government than Iranians permalink fedilink source parent [–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 7 months ago (4 children) Americans have been supporting this kind of shit for decades, they're all complicit at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago (3 children) Yes, all people born into oppressive regimes that are often racistly holding them down are complicit. By that logic, the victims of apartheid states deserve it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 7 months ago (2 children) There haven't been any coups. No one has taken power by force (not since they genocided the native civilizations, at least). A vast majority of Americans have voted time and time again, for decades, for this shit, and will keep doing so if there are any elections after Taarump. Egoism, racism, imperialism, murder, child abuse, and runaway untethered capitalism are core American values. Basic principles upon which their culture is built. Don't compare them to actual victims. They reap what they sow. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) I'm trying to understand the logical conclusion of your viewpoint. Do you believe even the victims of racial oppression, often also in the form of voter suppression, are responsible for all the crimes past and present of the country they found themselves trapped in? Are you also personally responsible for any reprehensible behavior the country you were born in has committed, past or present? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago I'm responsible for the actions of the governments I vote for, and those of the governments I don't rebel against. As are American citizens. Many of the victims of racial oppression in the USA had no problem voting for Trump, or previous criminals who held offices in their government. I'm sure most of them happily voted for Obama, another mass murderer like the majority of US presidents in history. Because as all Americans they share those rotten core values, and will happily vote for anyone who'll act like a bully and harm the weak, ignoring that he'll also hurt them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 point 7 months ago Is it, though? Who voted for him? And more importantly, who did not vote at all? Because all those tards that decided for whatever reason not to vote got us here as well and with that group added, we're talking the vast majority of Americans. Add to that that the best resistance we've seen so far were the failed and sad little no kings protests... Seriously, please look at europe on how to protest. These protests in the US did squat, nothing changed, it barely hit the news anymore. So yeah, between Iranians being born into a theocratic dictatorship and Americans who could and should know better, pretending to "rule the free world", I feel Americans carry a lot more responsibility for the actions of their government than Iranians permalink fedilink source parent
[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 7 months ago (4 children) Americans have been supporting this kind of shit for decades, they're all complicit at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago (3 children) Yes, all people born into oppressive regimes that are often racistly holding them down are complicit. By that logic, the victims of apartheid states deserve it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 7 months ago (2 children) There haven't been any coups. No one has taken power by force (not since they genocided the native civilizations, at least). A vast majority of Americans have voted time and time again, for decades, for this shit, and will keep doing so if there are any elections after Taarump. Egoism, racism, imperialism, murder, child abuse, and runaway untethered capitalism are core American values. Basic principles upon which their culture is built. Don't compare them to actual victims. They reap what they sow. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) I'm trying to understand the logical conclusion of your viewpoint. Do you believe even the victims of racial oppression, often also in the form of voter suppression, are responsible for all the crimes past and present of the country they found themselves trapped in? Are you also personally responsible for any reprehensible behavior the country you were born in has committed, past or present? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago I'm responsible for the actions of the governments I vote for, and those of the governments I don't rebel against. As are American citizens. Many of the victims of racial oppression in the USA had no problem voting for Trump, or previous criminals who held offices in their government. I'm sure most of them happily voted for Obama, another mass murderer like the majority of US presidents in history. Because as all Americans they share those rotten core values, and will happily vote for anyone who'll act like a bully and harm the weak, ignoring that he'll also hurt them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago (3 children) Yes, all people born into oppressive regimes that are often racistly holding them down are complicit. By that logic, the victims of apartheid states deserve it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 7 months ago (2 children) There haven't been any coups. No one has taken power by force (not since they genocided the native civilizations, at least). A vast majority of Americans have voted time and time again, for decades, for this shit, and will keep doing so if there are any elections after Taarump. Egoism, racism, imperialism, murder, child abuse, and runaway untethered capitalism are core American values. Basic principles upon which their culture is built. Don't compare them to actual victims. They reap what they sow. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) I'm trying to understand the logical conclusion of your viewpoint. Do you believe even the victims of racial oppression, often also in the form of voter suppression, are responsible for all the crimes past and present of the country they found themselves trapped in? Are you also personally responsible for any reprehensible behavior the country you were born in has committed, past or present? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago I'm responsible for the actions of the governments I vote for, and those of the governments I don't rebel against. As are American citizens. Many of the victims of racial oppression in the USA had no problem voting for Trump, or previous criminals who held offices in their government. I'm sure most of them happily voted for Obama, another mass murderer like the majority of US presidents in history. Because as all Americans they share those rotten core values, and will happily vote for anyone who'll act like a bully and harm the weak, ignoring that he'll also hurt them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 7 months ago (2 children) There haven't been any coups. No one has taken power by force (not since they genocided the native civilizations, at least). A vast majority of Americans have voted time and time again, for decades, for this shit, and will keep doing so if there are any elections after Taarump. Egoism, racism, imperialism, murder, child abuse, and runaway untethered capitalism are core American values. Basic principles upon which their culture is built. Don't compare them to actual victims. They reap what they sow. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) I'm trying to understand the logical conclusion of your viewpoint. Do you believe even the victims of racial oppression, often also in the form of voter suppression, are responsible for all the crimes past and present of the country they found themselves trapped in? Are you also personally responsible for any reprehensible behavior the country you were born in has committed, past or present? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago I'm responsible for the actions of the governments I vote for, and those of the governments I don't rebel against. As are American citizens. Many of the victims of racial oppression in the USA had no problem voting for Trump, or previous criminals who held offices in their government. I'm sure most of them happily voted for Obama, another mass murderer like the majority of US presidents in history. Because as all Americans they share those rotten core values, and will happily vote for anyone who'll act like a bully and harm the weak, ignoring that he'll also hurt them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) I'm trying to understand the logical conclusion of your viewpoint. Do you believe even the victims of racial oppression, often also in the form of voter suppression, are responsible for all the crimes past and present of the country they found themselves trapped in? Are you also personally responsible for any reprehensible behavior the country you were born in has committed, past or present? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago I'm responsible for the actions of the governments I vote for, and those of the governments I don't rebel against. As are American citizens. Many of the victims of racial oppression in the USA had no problem voting for Trump, or previous criminals who held offices in their government. I'm sure most of them happily voted for Obama, another mass murderer like the majority of US presidents in history. Because as all Americans they share those rotten core values, and will happily vote for anyone who'll act like a bully and harm the weak, ignoring that he'll also hurt them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago I'm responsible for the actions of the governments I vote for, and those of the governments I don't rebel against. As are American citizens. Many of the victims of racial oppression in the USA had no problem voting for Trump, or previous criminals who held offices in their government. I'm sure most of them happily voted for Obama, another mass murderer like the majority of US presidents in history. Because as all Americans they share those rotten core values, and will happily vote for anyone who'll act like a bully and harm the weak, ignoring that he'll also hurt them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 1984@lemmy.today 1 point 7 months ago Everyone means your leaders, not you. I think. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 1 point 7 months ago We totally never hurt anyone or ever intended yo hurt any. permalink fedilink source parent