Peak energy production would be a good time to train the damn llms instead of building natural gas power plant I guess.

You can dump megawatts. But there is no need for that. It's not like solar panel inverters will just keep increasing voltage until they can push the power into the grid. They have an upper limit.

Basically I don't see your point

Maybe I don't know enough about electricity at large scale, but at small scale you can just cut the circuit. Electricity isn't like water that just sits in the pipe when you close a valve, right?

Solar panels need an aperture.

Again, though, using gravity batteries or pumped hydro is a great way to manage excess juice, though these are expensive options.

Batteries? Boil water? Anything?

The extra power issue is not that hard to solve, when you get close you can start mandating the inverters to have smart connection to the grid, so they stop providing power to the grid if demand is satisfied.

You can’t just dump grid power — it needs to go somewhere. The grid needs to consume as much as it generates at all times or else bad things happen.

we figured out this problem centuries ago it is called capacitors. long term it is called batteries

No. No no no. You can literally turn solar generation off, nearly instantly. It's called curtailment and it's done all the time in saturated markets. Older residential inverters don't have the reactive technology, but residential solar is a drop in the bucket compared to utility-scale solar.

Figuring out what to do with kilowatts is easy

So what you're saying is that if it's distributed enough (say, on the roofs of houses, sized to serve the needs of the occupants) it's not a problem.

a giant flywheel for every town!

Solar panels don't care if the energy they could produce isn't consumed.

Wind generators can be feathered and breaked until they stop rotating and generating.

Hydro-generation dams can simply close their water intakes and stop generating.

The things that have problems stopping generation are not renewables, they're things like nuclear power plants.

Negative energy prices are not a technical problem - if the decision to do so is made, renewable generation systems can quickly stop producing.

Negative energy prices are due to Market systems being used to decide who stops generating if supply exceeds demand - instead of some centralized entity deciding who will stop, the individual suppliers look at the market price for their product and decide themselves to stop/start producing or not.

Because electric power supply/demand balance changes way faster than said market signals are produced and processed ultimatelly to decisions to stop or start generation, you end up with prices overshooting and undershooting the ideal price point which is in equilibrium with the supply/demand balance, and sometimes the undershooting results in negative prices.

So negative energy prices are the result of the political choice of using market systems rather than some kind of centralized control - a system with centralized control would respond far faster to falls in demand and would thus not generate more power than demand to the point that somebody is actually paid to consume power.

So yeah, the idea that it's solar panels that are the problem by causing negative energy prices is complete total bullshit - the choice of a market system to regulate supply and demand is the source of the problem and solar, because it has very low operational costs and thus the price solar operators are willing to sell their product for is lower, just means that when the market at times naturally undershots (because it's SLOW at responding to changes in supply/demand) it will do so against an equilibrium price which is lower because solar is cheaper, and will thus more frequently end up going below zero price and into negative territory before bouncing back and stabilizing at the price which is in equilibrium with the current supply/demand balance.

Short term is grounding the power. Medium teen is building up storage or electricity intensive industries that can start up and shut down based on electricity swings.

Why wouldn't batteries work?