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[–] 176 points 7 months ago (52 children)

i guess some people are too young to remember wired mouses

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  • [–] 67 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    I only use wired. Batteries and charging suck.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Wireless has gotten pretty good over the past few years. I have a super cheap wireless mouse from Aliexpress that I use to control my PC while I'm on my couch (I have the PC plugged into my TV to watch Youtube videos and play the occasional game) and I only have to charge that thing every 2 months or so for like 20mins. The much bigger problem is the annoying latency and random connection breaks, but that might just be a factor of the mouse being super cheap.
    My keyboard does both wired and 2.4ghz wireless with a physical toggle and it's super reliable, but I have no idea how long the battery would last because I use it wired for my work Laptop during the day and wireless on my couch at night, so it's basically always at full charge.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    It only works well because you have a super cheap wireless mouse from Ali. I have a fairly expensive wireless mouse from Logitech and I have to use it in Bluetooth mode to get less stutter because the USB port on my display, literally 10-20 cm from the mouse, is angled the wrong way and apparently the Logitech unifying receiver is DIRECTIONAL but not by design.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    I use one on my main computer. It still works while charging, and even on Linux I get a notification when the battery goes under 10%. I plug it and use as a wired mouse for the day, and maybe leave it charging overnight and unplug it in the morning. Had it for 8 years now, never an issue.

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  • [–] 41 points 7 months ago (10 children)

    Wired vs. wireless is whatever works for you, but no one misses balled mice. No one.

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  • [–] 42 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Whoops! Big mistake buddy, you said something on the internet. Now we’re gonna fight! I miss balled mice. How ‘bout them apples? Nothing is as satisfying as cleaning the lint out of those things was

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Like they said, nobody.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    Now days sure, but I'd take one of later really good ball mice over many of the shitty cheap mice you get packed in with stuff now. The first few optical mice that I owned were legit worse than ball mice, while being much more expensive. I kept going back to the ball mice and regretting my wasteful purchases. The first one good enough to really kill them off was probably the MS InteliMouse 3.0.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    I will concede only in the fact that it made me look like a miracle worker to my parents when I "fixed" their mouse that had stopped working with my magic.

    On the other hand, the Christmas I gave them an LED mouse was peak level for all of us.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I miss the weighty rubberized balls IN the balled mice! Talk about a free fidget toy!

    However, do trackballs count as balled mice? Because I got one for my laptop recently and I LOVE it. Wish there was more of a market for nice trackballs, with an assortment of ball materials for different inertias and whatnot. Lol

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    No, trackballs are a separate thing. And their design is usually better at keeping debris out of the ball meaning less maintenance even though it's exposed literally all of the time.

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  • [–] 79 points 7 months ago (27 children)

    I still use them exclusively lol

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  • [–] 44 points 7 months ago (19 children)

    Same. The mouse is always something I’m going to use on the desk next to the computer. I don’t understand the advantage of making it wireless, that’d just be one more battery for me to keep charged. Honestly, if I had a wireless mouse I’d probably just leave it plugged in to the charger as I use it. (And don’t get me started on Apple’s mouse charge port on the bottom.)

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  • [–] 44 points 7 months ago (14 children)

    These generations of wireless mouses are fine. The advantage, as small as it is, is less drag from the wire and not having to juggle with wires when working with a laptop. Given the batteries these days I’m fine with wireless.

    Now I do not have the same view on wireless keyboards as these are pretty much stationary by default.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago (11 children)

    The batteries are my main issue.

    12 hour battery? I charge every night.

    4 day battery life? I forget to charge until it dies, and then it dies in the middle of using it.

    The mouse I have is only wireless for the "less drag while gaming" aspect but the cable is actually super nice, so I dont even mind the cable... I just leave it plugged in now.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    My laptop's wireless mouse has used the same AAA battery for months, and it gets used regularly. It's not daily, but it's at least a few times a week for an hour, and usually a lot more.

    My wired mouse on my PC gets used about the same amount, but the cable occasionally catches under the corner of the keyboard. It's not helped by the fact that I move the keyboard around depending on what I'm doing. That's also the reason I'm considering a wireless keyboard as well though.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    I had a wireless keyboard where the internal battery was total crap, had to keep it plugged in because it would drain within an hour. Got one with replace batteries, plenty of those available. Might be safer bet for you as well.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    Mine lasts several weeks. Also, it has a little light that turns red when it's low (as in, needs charging within a few days). It can also be used while charging without much issue. When I see the red light, I just plug it in while I'm not using it or doing something like watching media. It's really convenient. I have a mouse bungee, from when I had wired, and the cable just sits there waiting until it's needed.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    My logitech wireless mice will run on a single AA for like ... 2 years of daily use, I wanna say? At least 18 months.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    The batts last around a year if they are fresh

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    https://cherryxtrfy.com/mice/mz1-wireless/

    This mouse is designed to be extremely light weight. So the battery is small (500 mAh is less than half a AAA battery).

    And it's designed to handle up to 50g of acceleration (ie, fast FPS twitch movements), so it has to be doing a lot of tracking.

    So between higher power consumption than normal mice and a smaller battery than normal mice, it only advertises 75* hours of use (* Depending on Hz, lighting on/off and playstyle).

    I could absolutely get a mouse that lasts much longer. But not one that meets all the other criteria I have for a performance gaming mouse. I wasn't attempting to come in hot about "wireless bad" or anything, just sharing my experience.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    Just to join the poll, my logitech mouse will do about 2 months per charge. When the battery is low, it wil indicate with a red LED, but it will keep going for several days (thoigh I've never had the issue with not finding a charger within that time, so I don't know how long it could run after the LED lights up).

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    I used to live with a cat that chewed on cables. Other devices could have protective sleeves on the cables, but for the mouse that wasn't readonable. So that's the only reason I know for having a wireless mouse.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    I actually do this. I have a small power bank I keep the mouse hooked up to, and when it falls low enough it taps into it. Every few weeks or even a month I recharge the bank up. But wires being a problem will depend on your setup and desk real estate. This doesn't bother me, but having a wired keyboard would lose some space, so I'm glad for my wireless there. And that's even less of a hassle, as it's still running off the original batteries it came with years (and years!) ago. Makes sense, there is very little power usage there being a boring old Logitech non-backlit keyboard.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    I bet you still have a mousepad and have to clean your balls on occasion

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I know it's Lewis Black, but I'm still not gonna watch a video

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Same here.

    With wireless you get:

    extra cost, extra weight (drives me nuts), either a battery that eventually fails or replaceable batteries that you need to buy and replace, and if its not bluetooth, some usb adapter that either gets lost of broken.

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  • [+] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)
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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    Most reasonablemice now support wither a 2.4GHz dongle, or Bluetooth. If your device has WiFi it almost certainly has Bluetooth support. So many motherboards are coming with built in wifi now, as do a lot of prebuilt towers. For most usage a Bluetooth connection is just fine.

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I prefer wired accessories. They don't need to be charged, and I don't have to worry about them having connection issues.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    Yeah, and because the distance is less than a meter and nothing has to move between the 2 devices, a cable makes so much more sense.

    I especially loathe wireless keyboards on desks. The thing don't even move. There is no functional reason to be wireless. If you really want a wireless desk for some reason, just drill a hole and pull the usb cable through. It will save you about 200€ and tons of faff keeping the connection working properly when the device eventually runs out of battery.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    I was a fan of wireless keyboards. But between still requiring a wired one for the rare bios visit, connectivity issues, if the dongle is not in front of the PC, and the last one just dying, they are banned now.

    Most mice are still ok in wireless. A Razer one was too power hungry. But it's wire-optionally design was great, except that the wire was too rigid.

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