This is some serious bullshit

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[–] 143 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (22 children)

From a security perspective, these only serve to create an extensive roadblock - and a traffic jam as seen at the end. Disable one in front, one in rear, and you’ve got them kettled. Plus, as you can see, it’s a very slow moving convoy. A dozen bike cops and two cars (Couchfucker + security detail) would be sufficient.

Whoever came up with this idea should be fired.

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  • [–] 58 points 9 months ago* (5 children)

    From a security perspective, these only serve to create an extensive roadblock. Disable one in front, one in rear, and you’ve got them kettled. Plus, as you can see, it’s a very slow moving convoy. A dozen bike cops and two cars (Couchfucker + security detail) would be sufficient.

    Whoever came up with this idea should be fired.

    Neo has a really good video on the presidential motorcade and how it works. It is completely absurd in a place like Milan, certainly, but every part of it is there for a reason.

    Here is that video on Nebula

    And here it is on YouTube

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  • [–] 53 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    One size doesn’t fit all.

    Moreover, the president is getting the treatment of a king. They are ostensibly fungible assets. There’s a succession plan. The more they’re protected, the more they’re a target (and invading foreign countries doesn’t help).

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  • [–] 21 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    One size doesn’t fit all.

    I agree, which is why I said using the motorcade in Milan is absurd. 🙂

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    I had the same impulse when seeing that convoy. I think there should be enough stuff from the war in ex-yugoslavia floating around, and with the current political climate there shouldn't be an issue finding 50-100 people to place on rooftops.

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  • [+] 14 points 9 months ago (6 children)
  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child)

    Obfuscation is part of the motorcade, but not to the extent you would think. The motorcade has two presidential limos, and the POTUS is typically put in one while the VP is put in the other. Or in this case, the second limo would simply be empty. The order of the limos is random. The idea being that if you manage to bomb one limo, you’d only get either the VP or POTUS, and you’d have no way of knowing which one you got until after the fact. And that’s assuming the bomb is even effective, because the presidential limos have RPG-proof windows and heavy armored plating underneath the body panels.

    Most of the motorcade is focused on things like landmine detection, biological weapon detection, chemical weapon detection, standby security forces in case they need to fan out/circle the wagons and create a secure perimeter, on-site medical staff, monitoring local radio chatter, jamming equipment to activate in case of an attack, etc…

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    You’re right. Only the first two vehicles show signs of armouring. I don’t think that all this theatrics would happen and then not put the cargo in the armoured car. But I’m not an expert, just a critic

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago*

    It's them applying the same strat as in the US even though they are in Milan and the roads are twice as narrow.

    I suppose they think there is so many cars it would be hard to know in which the couch fucker is. But still you are correct to say that convoy could be easily completely blocked. And in that case you could have an army to defend it it would be a very bad situation.

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