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[+] -21 points 9 months ago* (56 children)

Umm, I don't think this page even exists..

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files

https://justice.gov/epstein/files

Edit: Also Page Not Found on the Internet Archive..

https://web.archive.org/web/20260131083914/https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files

Find us some real links please.

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  • [–] [S] 20 points 9 months ago (51 children)
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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago* (21 children)

    I downloaded it, the pdf is legit. Yours might have gotten corrupted during download, or the PDF viewer you are using is struggling with something in the document. Its all there though.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (6 children)
  • [+] -10 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Or maybe I'm 43 years old (fact), and just don't care to sign into Google anymore.

    You'd figure a PDF document link might actually take you to a PDF document and not do the bait and switch with an HTML document..

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  • [+] -9 points 9 months ago (13 children)

    That's nice. Can anyone provide a version of the document that like doesn't require signing into Google?

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    This doesn't ask to sign into google for me. If your Browser is forcing that then install Firefox or an alternate browser than chrome.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Then you shouldn't need to login to Google

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Shouldn't being the key word, but it's trying to open Google Play to 'help' me find an app to open this 'weird' PDF that's actually an HTML script. Android doesn't give me the option to pick which app it tries to open the downloaded script with, unless I rename it to HTML, but then it just loads the script locally and the Yes/No buttons don't even work.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah its because of their download intercept, the download of the PDF doesn't happen unless you have the cookie saved. So the link is to a PDF, but they check if you are authorized to download. You are getting an HTML because a normal desktop browser would present the choice buttons to save an approval cookie.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    I've ultimately narrowed it down to a bug in the Jerboa for Lemmy app itself. I filed a bug report earlier to the Jerboa community, if you care to give it a read-over...

    https://lemmy.world/post/42576064

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Maybe try in a different browser or device because I don't think it has that requirement. Unless it accepts existing login cookies (which it should not without explicitly stating).

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  • [–] -4 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    I use Fennec, a fork of Firefox, and I'm not logged into a damn thing on Fennec. Yeah that might largely be the problem, but I ain't about to login to Google on my mobile devices anymore..

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago* (3 children)

    The archive org link I tried doesn't seem to work. Do you have an alternative file hoster you trust that I could use?

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  • [–] -3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    catbox.moe is pretty solid for files 200MB or less, temporarily though. But the archive snapshot can permanently archive files from there (or at least used to be able to).

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 9 months ago (25 children)
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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago* (6 children)

    But it's a very surface level prompt. Is it just me that has instinctively selected the "I'm over 18" button without thinking long before that was true?

    They don't ask verification as far as I know. It's the US gov so you're correct to be cautious. I didn't try in a "private" tab.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

    What device, os, browser fennec, and addons?

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I figured it out, it's apparently a bug in the Jerboa for Lemmy app. Jerboa sees PDF and tries to open my default PDF viewer rather than my web browser Fennec.

    When I copy the link and paste it directly in Fennec, it works as expected, but when I tap the link in Jerboa, it's blindly trying to open it with a PDF app, which gives the Invalid Format error.

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago

    A MaxWest tablet, stock Android 11, but never signed into Google. No Chrome here, I used to use Firefox, until they started adopting AI tech, so now I use the more privacy focused fork, Fennec.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    It is a pdf link but there is an intercept script that does the age verification. Once you have said yes once, the PDF links then just directly lead to the PDFs.

    But I don't understand why you are promted for Google sign in, I tried on Vanadium and Firefox and there was no google stuff.

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  • [+] -11 points 9 months ago (15 children)

    Ah yes, the magical answer to everything. Doesn't work for me, invalid format.

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  • [+] -7 points 9 months ago (12 children)

    That's fantastic, for everyone else I guess.

    Why am I prompted to sign into Google to even view it though?

    My mobile devices have never been signed into Google, and I ain't about to break from that personal rule to view documents on a dead pervert and his associates.

    Is there a version of this document that can be viewed with a proper FOSS PDF app?

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  • [–] [S] 11 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Are you done polluting this post?

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    I didn't have to sign into Google and I also don't use Chrome. All I had to do was click the age verification with no real verification follow-up steps.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Why are we doing tech support for this guy who overestimated his tech literacy? Prince Andrew controlled ISIS and this dude wants us to figure out why Fennec downloads based on path extension not mime-type

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago*

    I renamed the file extension from PDF to HTML and loaded it locally, and sure enough it asks whether I'm 18 or older. But since the script was loaded locally, the Yes/No buttons don't even work.

    I'd have to get the script to load as HTML straight from their website for it to work, but Fennec thinks it's supposed to be PDF, hence the Invalid Format error.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    Why am I prompted to sign into Google to even view it though?

    That a good question and one I'm willing to troubleshoot with you. In the meantime what's your preferred file hoster?I can upload the pdf for you.

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  • [+] 2 points 9 months ago (5 children)
  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Why would I be lying about this? Google doesn't know what to do with the document as downloaded, so it's attempting to open Google Play to find an app for it. Since I'm not logged into Google, the Play Store app jumps straight to the Google Login page on my device. Trying to jump directly to the page in Fennec gives me the Invalid Format error.

    Recognizing the file extension of the downloaded script should be HTML rather than PDF, I renamed it as such and loaded it locally in Fennec, where indeed it asked if I'm over 18, but since the page was loaded locally, the Yes/No buttons don't even work as they're sending the button response to localhost 127.0.0.1 instead of their website.

    Anyways, thanks for all the help, you've been none.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (3 children)

    I've been a web developer for decades. What you are describing matches nothing I've ever heard of on any browser or platform. This indeed was an html page that redirected to a pdf after clicking a link. Nothing about this should trip up any modern (or ancient) web browser. Absolute basic functionality.

    Why would I be lying about this?

    You tell me why you keep insisting a normal web page is like greek to your phone. Or why you were required to login to google services -- something neither the webpage does, nor any OS-oriented handling of any actually-unknown file type I have ever seen on android (ps HTML is not a bizarre unknown content type). What you described (in two distinctly different and random ways) sure isn't anything I'd ever be able to explain.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I finally figured it out, it's apparently a bug in the Jerboa for Lemmy app when I try tapping the link posted in Jerboa. Jerboa sees PDF, Jerboa blindly tries to open it as PDF. When I copy the link and paste it into Fennec directly, the link and age verification script works as expected.

    So the only thing I was doing 'wrong' was by tapping the link in Jerboa, like why would I expect the simple act of tapping a link is somehow messed up in Jerboa..?

    Anyways, thanks for all the 'help', accusing me of being a liar and all. I sure hope you and others accusing me of lying never get into tech support, nothing will ever get fixed or solved that way.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah, I would never in a million years have guessed that and I could never be in customer service. And if I were you, I would definitely use a different app after that experience -- pretty insane bug if you ask me. Sorry I called you a liar.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    Well now that I finally scratched my noodle long enough and figured out the copy/paste workaround, I've posted a bug report to the Jerboa community with the link provided here, and sure enough the bug easily reproduces on that post too, so hopefully they can look into it sometime soon.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    I finally figured it out, it's apparently a bug in the Jerboa for Lemmy app when I try tapping the link you posted in Jerboa. When I copy the link and paste it into Fennec directly, the link works as expected.

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Mans really just typed the URL from the address bar without applying any critical thinking.

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