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All Games Are Going Somewhere or Cleaning Something (media.piefed.zip)
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Title is a reference to a recent Semi-Ramblomatic video by Yahtzee.

(post 1) ever notice how men critize games like animal crossing and stardew valley on the basis of "the entire game is just doing tasks" without recognizing that "kill bad guy" is also just a task but violent? (Post 2, Same User) "It's so boring all you do is talk to people and do tasks so you can buy new things" yeah and all y ou do is press a bunch of buttons to kill people so you can buy new things? perish (Post 3, same user) My activity page has not known peace since I made this post I have hundreds of insufferable gamers crawling up my pant legs now but luckily I have a secret up my sleeve... I too am a gamer man. I'm immune to the gamer venom. (Post 4, new user) This has the same energy as that post that's "Red Dead Redemption is just Barbie's Horse Adventure with Violence."
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[–] 49 points 9 months ago (15 children)

No, I have literally never heard men criticize Animal Crossing or Star Dew Valley for any reason, really. But I guess they do in your head while you shower.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago

    This is another fallacy men vs women BS attention seeking, ragebait post

    It's not men vs women

    It's people who only play COD and FIFA on consoles vs more involved and open-minded gamers

    Sex has nothing to do with this but making it about sex is more headline-worthy...

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago

    It's some capital G Gamer take from the same people hating on walking sims, has been a while since I've seen that though. Loud fringe idiots, as usual.

    Fuck the generalization but I highly suspect it's mostly just a tumblr thing/kinda general meme to lead with will...

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  • [+] 4 points 9 months ago* (2 children)
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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I mean, they're entitled to that opinion. If you said an FPS was boring because it's just shooting people, I wouldn't be mad, they're entitled to that opinion too. Although I think you could make a pretty objective argument that a game like Call of Duty is at the very least more stimulating than a game like stardew valley.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    You need to get out more.

    There are a lot of people I know who think I am a wuss for playing games that don't involve shooting people and killing people and whacking people over the head with pipes.

    I tell them I run a shop in a shopping centre and they go "that's not gaming"

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    okay, I'll sacrifice myself for this, here's my opinion:

    I haven't been able to get into Stardew, it just feels like there isn't much to do that requires thought. it's run here, buy a thing, decide where you want to go, buy that thing, maybe do a cave for a bit of something interesting but not too much of that

    idk, just didn't have enough autonomy or choice, for me? and I wasn't invested in the story at all. seems like a cute mindless game that's good for relaxing, when you don't want to mentally tax yourself because you're gaming to relax. same goes for animal crossing, though I only watched it, never played it. animal crossing seemed like there was more thought involved, actually, as you had more control over stuff. less guided.

    so now take those words and twist it into criticism instead of statements about personal preference, I guess, and you've got the source of the OP's comment

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago*

    SDV is all autonomy and choice. You personally might not enjoy the choices you have available, but the game does not force you in any direction.

    Choices you have:
    What crops to purchase
    How many to purchase
    Where you plant them
    Do you want to build a bunch of sprinklers
    At what quality of sprinklers do you want to start using them
    When to upgrade your tools
    Do you want to go foraging Do you want to go fishing
    Do you want to go increase friendship levels with villagers
    Are you focusing on any specific villagers
    Do you want to do this random quest
    Community center or joja mart
    Do you want to go to the mine today
    Progress deeper into the mind or stay at levels you've explored for the resources they have
    What farm buildings to purchase
    When to purchase them
    Sell this crop or use it as an ingredient
    Which of the 20 perks do you want
    What is your goal for this specific day
    What is your goal for this specific season

    Yes, it's a game that doesn't require a lot of focus but that doesn't mean it's mindless (it's not a clicker) or that it lacks autonomy. There's more autonomy in SDV than there is in say Expedition 33 where your choices are: Kill the paintress (not optional), your character build, and do you go to this side area now or come back later?

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago*

    The take i remember (just one i read on the internet) for animal crossing was that it was too close to home (ie real life) for the real poster. first thing that happens is you get saddled with a huge mortgage/ loan that you have to pay off by doing repetitive tasks, etc, thats its essentialy a participating in capitalism sim, which matches most people's real life. I think the conclusion was

    'instead of playing the game and working off my in game debt, I felt like I should be finding a moderately enjoyable craft/hobby that I can monetize as a side hustle to pay off my IRL debt, like student loans. '

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago*

    Stardew is pretty devoid of meaningful choice because it's devoid of meaningful challenge. Other games in the genre, like Harvest Moon 64 or Rune Factory 4 (no particular reason for those examples, they're just my favorites in the genre) are defined by taxing time limits, complicated schedules to remember, and so on. Rune Factory 4 even has very challenging dungeons which reward understanding the crafting system and the various skills.

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