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[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 10 months ago (4 children) Xenophobia is Racism like Water is a Fluid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tomenzgg@midwest.social 1 point 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children) I expect, at this point, we will just agree to disagree and there's no way we'll see eye to eye but no: it's very much not. Race is an ill-defined social construct whereas xenophobia is based on prejudice against cultural and national lines and, while those are also socially constructed, they are more concrete than the boundaries of "race". As such, racism seeks to (and is more defined by its attempt to) construct a sense of identity against something to maintain a status quo (hence why the definition of "white" has been able to expand to include ethnicity such as the Irish) to better position itself against others. While cultures and ethnicities can certainly change over time, they're not remotely as nebulous (and made up) as race is and, thus, don't operate in that same way; people are also much more invested in cultures and ethnicities beyond reasons of maintaining hegemonic status quo so that impacts things, as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 10 months ago (2 children) Did you expect to convert me to racism? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tomenzgg@midwest.social 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) I expected (hoped?) you'd educate yourself a bit; there's a wealth of information and research and theory on this subject so it's not like you have an excuse to so wildly misuse terminology which is well-known and well-defined. Continuing to use "racism" without defining what race is is cartoonish but I did hope for more from you; I guess, at least, good faith. Oh, well. For others who come across this thread and would like creators who sometimes cover these topics with some depth, here's some video essayists: https://www.youtube.com/@FDSignifire https://www.youtube.com/@olurinatti https://www.youtube.com/@lilbilliam https://www.youtube.com/@Princess_Weekes https://www.youtube.com/@KatBlaque/videos https://www.youtube.com/@jouelzy/videos permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -2 points 10 months ago Bro doesn't know the definition of race and thinks I'm the one who needs educating. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tomenzgg@midwest.social 1 point 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children) I expect, at this point, we will just agree to disagree and there's no way we'll see eye to eye but no: it's very much not. Race is an ill-defined social construct whereas xenophobia is based on prejudice against cultural and national lines and, while those are also socially constructed, they are more concrete than the boundaries of "race". As such, racism seeks to (and is more defined by its attempt to) construct a sense of identity against something to maintain a status quo (hence why the definition of "white" has been able to expand to include ethnicity such as the Irish) to better position itself against others. While cultures and ethnicities can certainly change over time, they're not remotely as nebulous (and made up) as race is and, thus, don't operate in that same way; people are also much more invested in cultures and ethnicities beyond reasons of maintaining hegemonic status quo so that impacts things, as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 10 months ago (2 children) Did you expect to convert me to racism? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tomenzgg@midwest.social 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) I expected (hoped?) you'd educate yourself a bit; there's a wealth of information and research and theory on this subject so it's not like you have an excuse to so wildly misuse terminology which is well-known and well-defined. Continuing to use "racism" without defining what race is is cartoonish but I did hope for more from you; I guess, at least, good faith. Oh, well. For others who come across this thread and would like creators who sometimes cover these topics with some depth, here's some video essayists: https://www.youtube.com/@FDSignifire https://www.youtube.com/@olurinatti https://www.youtube.com/@lilbilliam https://www.youtube.com/@Princess_Weekes https://www.youtube.com/@KatBlaque/videos https://www.youtube.com/@jouelzy/videos permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -2 points 10 months ago Bro doesn't know the definition of race and thinks I'm the one who needs educating. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 10 months ago (2 children) Did you expect to convert me to racism? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tomenzgg@midwest.social 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) I expected (hoped?) you'd educate yourself a bit; there's a wealth of information and research and theory on this subject so it's not like you have an excuse to so wildly misuse terminology which is well-known and well-defined. Continuing to use "racism" without defining what race is is cartoonish but I did hope for more from you; I guess, at least, good faith. Oh, well. For others who come across this thread and would like creators who sometimes cover these topics with some depth, here's some video essayists: https://www.youtube.com/@FDSignifire https://www.youtube.com/@olurinatti https://www.youtube.com/@lilbilliam https://www.youtube.com/@Princess_Weekes https://www.youtube.com/@KatBlaque/videos https://www.youtube.com/@jouelzy/videos permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -2 points 10 months ago Bro doesn't know the definition of race and thinks I'm the one who needs educating. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tomenzgg@midwest.social 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) I expected (hoped?) you'd educate yourself a bit; there's a wealth of information and research and theory on this subject so it's not like you have an excuse to so wildly misuse terminology which is well-known and well-defined. Continuing to use "racism" without defining what race is is cartoonish but I did hope for more from you; I guess, at least, good faith. Oh, well. For others who come across this thread and would like creators who sometimes cover these topics with some depth, here's some video essayists: https://www.youtube.com/@FDSignifire https://www.youtube.com/@olurinatti https://www.youtube.com/@lilbilliam https://www.youtube.com/@Princess_Weekes https://www.youtube.com/@KatBlaque/videos https://www.youtube.com/@jouelzy/videos permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -2 points 10 months ago Bro doesn't know the definition of race and thinks I'm the one who needs educating. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -2 points 10 months ago Bro doesn't know the definition of race and thinks I'm the one who needs educating. permalink fedilink source parent