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[–] 86 points 10 months ago (25 children)

So has anyone here watched it? Other than Streisand effect, is there any reason for the fuss?

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  • [–] 234 points 10 months ago* (14 children)

    I have. It merely presents evidence for what we already knew: CECOT tortures inmates and sending non criminal Venezuelans there with no due process is morally wrong, inhumane, and maybe illegal.

    Censoring it is merely pro regime propaganda. 60 minutes asked for a DHS response and they refused. There’s nothing wrong with the reporting.

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  • [–] 79 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    and maybe illegal.

    it's definitely illegal.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    For now anyway.

    If I recall the only reason US rights apply to non-us citizens is a supreme court ruling. Scary to think about those implications

    Probably breaks some international law too

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child)

    Fourteenth amendment’s equal protection clause says “no person shall be denied equal protection”, not “no citizen”

    the same distinction is made in the fifth, “no person shall be deprived of life, liberty or property without the due process of law”

    The constitution is actually quite clear.

    Edit to clarify: the SCROTUS is definitely going to come up with some reason to explain why words do not mean what they mean, but both trump’s actions and siding with him like that are in fact impeachable.

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Saying “it doesn’t push the ball forward” is such incredible bullshit too. Even if there’s nothing new, giving it awareness is still pushing the ball forward.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    ...giving it awareness is still pushing the ball forward.

    100%.

    I felt physically sick the last (very rare) time I checked my Nextdoor, and a person reporting ICE activity was getting brigaded with "BuT tHeY'rE ArReStiNg CriMiNaLs AnD pRoTeCtiNg Us" type comments. Like I was seriously HOPING this was bot farm activity. Like it's heartbreakingly painful to see people that are sincerely that stupid.

    The more irrefutable proof of these crimes, the more the "I'll believe anything I hear" normies will accept the truth as "common knowledge", and the hardline fascists get further discredited and ridiculed in public discourse.

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  • [+] -21 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    I haven't heard about Bari Weiss untill this 60 mins thing. I went and took a look at The Free Press site she is in charge of and I'm seeing lots of articles that are critical of the current administration.

    Where is does this angle that's she is super pro-trump come from?

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  • [–] 47 points 10 months ago

    You mean like how JD Vance was critical of Trump, to the point of calling him an idiot, unfit for office, reprehensible, and like Hitler?

    Turns out, people just say things and then perform actions that say otherwise.

    Judge people on their actions, not their words.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (1 child)
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    I'm not so nuanced about traitors. If she's not actively opposing this government, then she's MAGA trash. She doesn't get to escape blame through careful parsing of her positions.

    The very fact that Larry Ellison put her in charge of converting CBS News to an outlet of the Conservative Propaganda Machine convicts her as a MAGA.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago

    She built her career on being a "free speech person" opposed to callout culture etc but recent remarks show a more political bent where she wants to "redefine what is acceptable main stream speech".

    She's not pro trump as much as she's anti left so in many ways she's just aligned ideologically with the fascist right and thinks they've been restricting the correct speech.

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  • [–] 43 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Besides the blatant censorship by a Trump sycophant?

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Yes, that's the, question. Is there anything interesting in the videos.

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  • [–] 32 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Someone else linked it below (https://ia802801.us.archive.org/15/items/insidececot/60minutesCECOTsegment.mp4).

    It's only a 15 minute watch, so worth checking out. The TLDW is that the US government is sending non-criminals seeking asylum to be tortured in El Salvador. 97% of people sent there have no criminal record. The people there were beaten, sexually assaulted, starved, denied access to medical care and clean water, forced to remain in stress positions, subject to bright light 24 hours a day, and/or thrown in pitch black isolation cells with no light.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    There is nothing surprising about the video if you’ve been keeping up with the news and not making excuses. It’s just confirmation of what I’ve known.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    It's not a surprise to those of us, still scrolling through this thread of interest. And yet, there's still more people who weren't sure if the prior claims were true and yet more that still don't give a fuck.

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