▲ 136 ▼ Hair trade offer (lemmy.world) submitted 11 months ago by kubofhromoslav@lemmy.world to c/science_memes@mander.xyz 16 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 17 points 11 months ago (9 children) Any cap here with a good explanation? permalink fedilink source hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] kubofhromoslav@lemmy.world [S] 35 points 11 months ago (2 children) When old cells are damaged they are at risk of turning into cancer. Many of them rather die (apoptosis) or turn senescent (in that case they can't produce melanin to make color of hair). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GreatTitEnthusiast@mander.xyz 7 points 11 months ago Oh yeah, that's a good explanation permalink fedilink source parent [–] scrooge@infosec.pub 2 points 11 months ago Does this have any implication for people that have grey hair early on vs people that only get it later in life? permalink fedilink source parent [–] GreatTitEnthusiast@mander.xyz 7 points 11 months ago (4 children) While it's not a good trade you'd rather have gray hair if it meant you didn't get melanoma permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fascicle@leminal.space 5 points 11 months ago (3 children) Why not avoid both permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] kubofhromoslav@lemmy.world [S] 11 points 11 months ago (2 children) That's the intention, but... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marcos@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) Isn't the idea just to slowly kill them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kubofhromoslav@lemmy.world [S] 6 points 11 months ago* Killing should work for many tissues, especially those whose cells still divide. But for some tissues it is problematic. Killing senescent cell from muscle would make the whole muscle fiber to break. Killing senescent neuron could lead to loose of some cognitive or other function. So part of dealing with senescent cells is to modulate them so they do not vomit senescence associated secretary phenotype (SASP) which is quite annoying to other cells. Ultimately, we could rejuvenate senescent cells so they would work properly, but that seems much harder than other options. permalink fedilink source parent [–] OpenStars@piefed.social 2 points 11 months ago No cap available, apparently permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kubofhromoslav@lemmy.world [S] 35 points 11 months ago (2 children) When old cells are damaged they are at risk of turning into cancer. Many of them rather die (apoptosis) or turn senescent (in that case they can't produce melanin to make color of hair). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GreatTitEnthusiast@mander.xyz 7 points 11 months ago Oh yeah, that's a good explanation permalink fedilink source parent [–] scrooge@infosec.pub 2 points 11 months ago Does this have any implication for people that have grey hair early on vs people that only get it later in life? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GreatTitEnthusiast@mander.xyz 7 points 11 months ago Oh yeah, that's a good explanation permalink fedilink source parent
[–] scrooge@infosec.pub 2 points 11 months ago Does this have any implication for people that have grey hair early on vs people that only get it later in life? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GreatTitEnthusiast@mander.xyz 7 points 11 months ago (4 children) While it's not a good trade you'd rather have gray hair if it meant you didn't get melanoma permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fascicle@leminal.space 5 points 11 months ago (3 children) Why not avoid both permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] kubofhromoslav@lemmy.world [S] 11 points 11 months ago (2 children) That's the intention, but... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marcos@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) Isn't the idea just to slowly kill them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kubofhromoslav@lemmy.world [S] 6 points 11 months ago* Killing should work for many tissues, especially those whose cells still divide. But for some tissues it is problematic. Killing senescent cell from muscle would make the whole muscle fiber to break. Killing senescent neuron could lead to loose of some cognitive or other function. So part of dealing with senescent cells is to modulate them so they do not vomit senescence associated secretary phenotype (SASP) which is quite annoying to other cells. Ultimately, we could rejuvenate senescent cells so they would work properly, but that seems much harder than other options. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fascicle@leminal.space 5 points 11 months ago (3 children) Why not avoid both permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] kubofhromoslav@lemmy.world [S] 11 points 11 months ago (2 children) That's the intention, but... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marcos@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) Isn't the idea just to slowly kill them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kubofhromoslav@lemmy.world [S] 6 points 11 months ago* Killing should work for many tissues, especially those whose cells still divide. But for some tissues it is problematic. Killing senescent cell from muscle would make the whole muscle fiber to break. Killing senescent neuron could lead to loose of some cognitive or other function. So part of dealing with senescent cells is to modulate them so they do not vomit senescence associated secretary phenotype (SASP) which is quite annoying to other cells. Ultimately, we could rejuvenate senescent cells so they would work properly, but that seems much harder than other options. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kubofhromoslav@lemmy.world [S] 11 points 11 months ago (2 children) That's the intention, but... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marcos@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) Isn't the idea just to slowly kill them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kubofhromoslav@lemmy.world [S] 6 points 11 months ago* Killing should work for many tissues, especially those whose cells still divide. But for some tissues it is problematic. Killing senescent cell from muscle would make the whole muscle fiber to break. Killing senescent neuron could lead to loose of some cognitive or other function. So part of dealing with senescent cells is to modulate them so they do not vomit senescence associated secretary phenotype (SASP) which is quite annoying to other cells. Ultimately, we could rejuvenate senescent cells so they would work properly, but that seems much harder than other options. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] marcos@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) Isn't the idea just to slowly kill them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kubofhromoslav@lemmy.world [S] 6 points 11 months ago* Killing should work for many tissues, especially those whose cells still divide. But for some tissues it is problematic. Killing senescent cell from muscle would make the whole muscle fiber to break. Killing senescent neuron could lead to loose of some cognitive or other function. So part of dealing with senescent cells is to modulate them so they do not vomit senescence associated secretary phenotype (SASP) which is quite annoying to other cells. Ultimately, we could rejuvenate senescent cells so they would work properly, but that seems much harder than other options. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kubofhromoslav@lemmy.world [S] 6 points 11 months ago* Killing should work for many tissues, especially those whose cells still divide. But for some tissues it is problematic. Killing senescent cell from muscle would make the whole muscle fiber to break. Killing senescent neuron could lead to loose of some cognitive or other function. So part of dealing with senescent cells is to modulate them so they do not vomit senescence associated secretary phenotype (SASP) which is quite annoying to other cells. Ultimately, we could rejuvenate senescent cells so they would work properly, but that seems much harder than other options. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 2 points 11 months ago No cap available, apparently permalink fedilink source parent