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[–] tobogganablaze@lemmus.org 15 points 11 months ago (6 children) It was more of a mosque until very recently, so not really. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] zout@fedia.io 30 points 11 months ago That depends on the the view point. It is true that it was founded as a mosque, and became a teaching centre later. Since universities are considered a European invention by some, it is argued that it was a madrassa op until the 1960's. However, madrassa is basically Arabic for place of study, which this mosque was since the eleventh century or earlier. It was in any case a place of study before the foundation of the university of Bologna. permalink fedilink source parent [–] oce@jlai.lu 12 points 11 months ago (4 children) This Wikipedia page agrees with this comment: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_universities_in_continuous_operation. It lists University of Bologna as the oldest one in continuous operation from 1180–1190. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] drolex@sopuli.xyz 4 points 11 months ago That's where the top boffins of the time invented spaghetti with tomato sauce, too! permalink fedilink source parent [–] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io 11 points 11 months ago I mean…. It does and it doesn’t. Yes, al-Qarawiyyin was founded as a mosque. Yes, it became a “university” within the last 100 years. But there was a looong span of time between where it was an institution of higher learning not formally classified as a “university” Paragraph 4 of the article you linked specifically notes that such institutions with mixed provenance were omitted from the list. Ancient higher-learning institutions, such as those of … the Islamic world, are not included in this list owing to their cultural, historical, structural and legal differences from the medieval European university… These include the University of al-Qarawiyyin… founded as mosques in 859… These developed associated madrasas… by 1129 for al-Qarawiyyin… Basically it is the oldest educational institution that is currently a university, as opposed to the institution having operated under the university model for the longest time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago Not long after hops became really popular as a beer ingredients. Coincidence? permalink fedilink source parent [–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) Al-Qarawiyyin is recognized by UNESCO and Guinness as the world's oldest continually running institution of higher learning. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zout@fedia.io 30 points 11 months ago That depends on the the view point. It is true that it was founded as a mosque, and became a teaching centre later. Since universities are considered a European invention by some, it is argued that it was a madrassa op until the 1960's. However, madrassa is basically Arabic for place of study, which this mosque was since the eleventh century or earlier. It was in any case a place of study before the foundation of the university of Bologna. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] oce@jlai.lu 12 points 11 months ago (4 children) This Wikipedia page agrees with this comment: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_universities_in_continuous_operation. It lists University of Bologna as the oldest one in continuous operation from 1180–1190. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] drolex@sopuli.xyz 4 points 11 months ago That's where the top boffins of the time invented spaghetti with tomato sauce, too! permalink fedilink source parent [–] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io 11 points 11 months ago I mean…. It does and it doesn’t. Yes, al-Qarawiyyin was founded as a mosque. Yes, it became a “university” within the last 100 years. But there was a looong span of time between where it was an institution of higher learning not formally classified as a “university” Paragraph 4 of the article you linked specifically notes that such institutions with mixed provenance were omitted from the list. Ancient higher-learning institutions, such as those of … the Islamic world, are not included in this list owing to their cultural, historical, structural and legal differences from the medieval European university… These include the University of al-Qarawiyyin… founded as mosques in 859… These developed associated madrasas… by 1129 for al-Qarawiyyin… Basically it is the oldest educational institution that is currently a university, as opposed to the institution having operated under the university model for the longest time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago Not long after hops became really popular as a beer ingredients. Coincidence? permalink fedilink source parent [–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) Al-Qarawiyyin is recognized by UNESCO and Guinness as the world's oldest continually running institution of higher learning. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] drolex@sopuli.xyz 4 points 11 months ago That's where the top boffins of the time invented spaghetti with tomato sauce, too! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io 11 points 11 months ago I mean…. It does and it doesn’t. Yes, al-Qarawiyyin was founded as a mosque. Yes, it became a “university” within the last 100 years. But there was a looong span of time between where it was an institution of higher learning not formally classified as a “university” Paragraph 4 of the article you linked specifically notes that such institutions with mixed provenance were omitted from the list. Ancient higher-learning institutions, such as those of … the Islamic world, are not included in this list owing to their cultural, historical, structural and legal differences from the medieval European university… These include the University of al-Qarawiyyin… founded as mosques in 859… These developed associated madrasas… by 1129 for al-Qarawiyyin… Basically it is the oldest educational institution that is currently a university, as opposed to the institution having operated under the university model for the longest time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago Not long after hops became really popular as a beer ingredients. Coincidence? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) Al-Qarawiyyin is recognized by UNESCO and Guinness as the world's oldest continually running institution of higher learning. permalink fedilink source parent