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The Trump Virus is spreading around the globe. Especially in the UK. (www.lgbtqnation.com)
submitted 1 year ago by to c/boycottus@lemmy.ca
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[–] 53 points 1 year ago (11 children)

What I don’t get is how are the people of the world watching us and going ‘yeah, we want a piece of that!’ ???? It fucking sucks over here right now.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Immigration all over the world from regions that have been destabilized for decades (due to the West's interference in addition to local issues*) is scaring all of the MAGA-esque people of each country. Also the LGBTQ stuff is too much change for these people, and so they allow themselves to be grifted by the ultra-wealthy in all of the countries to give away even more of their rights so they can achieve "safety" in their minds.

    Fear is the most primal motivator, and while their fears are misplaced, they're being accelerated and exploited by the elite to further divide and conquer. Tale as old as time.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Those who would trade liberty for security, deserve neither and will have none. - KMFDM by way of Franklin.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    More surveillance doesnt mean more safety. The US's murder resolution rate is 50% despite more surveillance than most countries. Even New York City, a place with an ungodly number of city controlled cameras and even more private cameras STILL has a murder resolution rate of around 50% as well.

    And the resolution means a person is arrested and charged. It does not mean convicted. I don't know how often charges are dropped due to changes or acquittals or having a conviction overturned later due to any number of factors. All this means the percentage of solved murders is probably even less.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Wow, lots to unpack here, first, I feel your pain, but I'm from elsewhere, so not the same pain. Seems you misunderstand the idea, surveillance (trading liberty for security) has historically failed to help. The original quote is from Ben Franklin "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." This is an idea aimed at governance, not local security (murder solving percentages and so forth)

    Best I can offer from a place where that's not a big thing, is try to make it not a big thing where you are, many societies manage. Happy to try to help, but some context is needed from here.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Their fears are legitimate. But yes, they are being exploited.

    And the liberal/left agenda won't acknowledge those fears. So they won't get those people's votes.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    their fears are legitimate

    There is where you lost me. Their fears of... what... exactly? The gay/les/trans agenda? (to not live in hiding and fear of being murdered for whom one likes or loves?) That is not legitimate.

    I will seek to understand. I will approach with curiosity. But to say their fears are legitimate is a bridge too far. There is no paradox of tolerance when one side does not agree or adhere to the social contract. That side wants LGBTQ+ people eliminated. They forfeit the social contract.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    you want to destroy their way of life and replace their values with your own. they don't want that.

    would you go to an amish enclave and start demanding they have to drive cars? don't you think the amish would feel threatened by you if you did that?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Nobody in the non-cis-het-normative world is trying to destroy any dam thing. They are trying to live their lives without being killed for it. Nobody is out there killing cis-het couples for being in cis-het relationships.

    And where I live, the Amish live in peaceful coexistence with the non-Amish so your nonsequitir doesn't even make sense. Hell, the Amish have agreements with folks that drive them around.

    I want my "life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness". My happiness doesn't take away from someone else's, unless they're such miserable shit Gibbons that they, as mentioned before, refuse to be party to the social contract.

    Oh, and keep assuming that there are no straight white men that are allies of the LGBTQIA+ community.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    White supremacy mixed with settler-colonialism. Not to say all white people believe it, but it’s the elephant in the room. It’s the reason Israel was created (can’t have the Jews in Europe), the fundamental problem with the United States with anyone not white, and the reason alt-right groups are gaining steam.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Trump is making billions off this scam. Why wouldn't they want a piece of that? And when at least a third of every given population has below average intelligence, the grift pretty much runs itself. Those folks will believe anything you tell them, as long as you push the right buttons.

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