[+] -11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The paradox clears itself up if you look at what tolerance actually is. It's simply not interfering with people's agency over themselves. Given that your right to self-agency doesn't entitle you to restrict others' self-agency, behavior that does try restricting others' agency is automatically not included in "tolerance."

I want them banned from our communities

So you want to call people fascists and nazis while also excluding people whose opinions you don't like? The irony is downright wild.

To reiterate what Karimov said:

people have different personal opinions. You believe in your heart that DHH is evil, that you have the moral high ground, and that nothing will change your mind. However, not everyone believes that. It is not fair to claim a monopoly and ostracize team members who might disagree with you.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    It's just what the article said. I do not use Google play services or its alternative implementations. There is nothing blocking graphene anymore than any other ROM on this specific issue. If anything graphene is one or the only roms that has an option to use the sandbox Google play.

    tl;dr my original response was made for one reason, to respond to your statement with what the article said and some flavor text around that. The title to this thread was not only misleading, but a full on red herring. The OP the article did not even say graphene once.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Bud, you can both use it and not donate, and stop chuds from doing anything that benefits them. If you think challenging fascists is a problem, you're a fascist for helping them. There is no such thing as an apolitical, human-made production, which means you have to constantly weed out harmful politics from everything; it's called criticism.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    His original claim to fame was building a gaming website in the early 00s utilizing some really poorly written php. a friend then asked him to essentially build basecamp because said friend didn't know any better and DHH was the only person that kinda sorta knew what he was doing. he got lucky with ruby on rails (what he used to build basecamp) cause his previous stuff was really bad.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 2 months ago*

    The reasons for forking Audacity were all valid but not necessarily important for the end user. It’s still GPL, you can still fork it and do whatever you want (GPL caveats apply).

    • CLA requirement for contributors (not uncommon in open source projects)
    • Adding telemetry and crash reporting (which is opt-in)
    • Privacy policy written to be on the safe side of regulatory compliance (understandable given corporate stewardship)
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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    additionally, i'm not saying that opposing racism or bigotry is immature. I'm saying throwing out a successful open-source project because the owner is allegedly a racist/bigot (i admittedly know nothing or care to know anything about this DHH character) is counterproductive. Is the code racist/bigoted? If I make something using Omarchy as my OS, am I racist/bigoted? It sounds like that's what you're implying...

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    i find it interesting you think that i do not have kindness or empathy based on my stance. I'd be curious if you were to meet me in real life if you could pick me out of a hypothetical lineup.

    This project has received money because it has drawn people to linux. I can still appreciate open-source code even if it's written by an asshat.

    On the other hand, I won't touch an Apple product and I judge tech enthusiasts who do. I will still say they make impressive products, but I have a strong stance against proprietary code for the sake of profit.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    You've fallen for the paradox of tolerance, OSS version.

    The author, and you, were mistaken: OS is not for everyone. It's not about whether I or anyone else "likes" them. Nazis and corpos don't come to software communities with honest intent. They lie and mislead to gain power and control. Then they consolidate power and exploit their control for personal gain.

    That isn't "political" it's predatory, and people who treat it like politics are running cover for the exploiters whether they know it or not.

    I don't want to change their shitty opinions. I want them banned from our communities so their corrosive influence can't cause further harm.

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  • [–] [S] 13 points 2 months ago*

    I’d argue that GPL is still counterculture, it’s just that permissive licensing is more common these days and both are conflated into single umbrella of free software. Permissive licensing culture made way into traditional free software spaces like Linux and we’re seeing results of that now.

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  • [+] -13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

    Open source isn't counterculture anymore, sorry but it has gotten too big to fit in your backpocket.

    I understand you disagree with some of the people using and writing it now... but if that's the case, perhaps communities using a different kind of license would be better suited for you if you cannot get along with them?

    I feel like the author is trying to point out some kind of hypocrisy while also feeding into one themselves... if open source was supposed to be for everyone, well, that includes people you don't like. And you're not going to change their opinions any more than they can change yours.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago

    I'll be happy for the day people stop believing foss is a story of ethical philanthropy and instead understand its macroeconomic value to consortiums who need technology that isn't owned by a monopoly.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Great read. I learned through this about the Mullvad controversy, and I think I'll stop using their services, which sucks because I think they were really ahead in the game when it comes to their privacy features. Oh well.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    I'm glad this is getting a lot of push back. The FOSS community should be a welcoming collaborative space, but such an environment is not possible when bigotry is is tolerated.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    It simpliefeis and unifies things too much, which is nice for making things "Just Work" but not so nice for making things work well.

    Same reason I went back to init from systemd.

    I like a more modular and intentional apprtoach, even if it is less simple.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    Issue is, fascists engage in entryism a lot more than leftists, so there's a good chance it'll get flooded with plausible sounding but fake reports (pretty easy to AI generate then touch it up by hand to hide the telltale signs), or at worse will be used to harass marginalized folks by trying to frame 10+ year old posts (if not completely fake ones) as representative of someone today. Also you'll be creating them an easy to search solidarity list, so they'll be just supporting those projects even more.

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