I've used Teams on Linux and it worked fine. Granted it was basically just a wrapper for the web version, similarly with Outlook for Linux. I've not used One Drive on Linux, but that is what I'd be more concerned about.

He's right about the tool aspect of it, but, and I cannot emphasise this enough, it is not just a tool. Though we all bow (or salivate) before our fake materialist gods, and cast aside the beauty and relationships in the world, things are more than just their function.

How sad that you engage in sloppery.

ClamAV is shit, and I’ve been using it on my machine for years

How boring.

Will you ever get to the point where you say clearly why exactly bootctl isn't a separate utility? No, having dependencies doesn't make something not a separate utility. And no, communicating with systemd daemon over unix sockets doesn't as well.

If it weren't for the price of memory (and everything else), the FW12 would be an easy buy for me. It is equal to or surpasses my current 13th gen Intel laptop in every way aside from the display (an amazing OLED to a reddish LCD is not great), and I really want one of their fun colours, especially the purple one!

Maybe in the future I can get one for cheap in the used market? Framework's "neutral" stance (that is, their unwillingness to criticise DHH and Omarchy. Not nearly as bad as Dell and others, who more blatantly support such nasty politics, but still) bothers me, so buying used also means my money won't go directly to them.

Doesn't help that IT is outsourced to the lowest bidder, which typically means the IT contractor enslaving corporate IT to microsoft and playing a game of "forward the ticket". Then "IT managers" in the organisation responsible for the contract typically know jack shit about IT and are busy trying to save face over protecting their users from incompetent contractors.

"I don't have any argument so let me build a strawman, it will make me look smart"

Some humans cannot own knives responsibility. It doesn't mean I have to cut the pineapple with a spoon.

That when you try to play the middle between the nazis and the victims of the nazis, you are just a nazi.

When you are a fucker who says "the suffering and pain on both sides is a tragedy", it's like saying "the suffering on both the nazi side and the people the populations they were genociding during WWII is a tragedy", that's something only a nazi (and a cowardly one) would say.

Is that what you were hoping for?

Of course there are dependencies. They all are tools that do one thing well amd call into other tools to do thenthings those tools were built to do. E.g. many need systemd-init to function as that is the tool to manage the livetime of services running on the system.

Generally, atheism is about denying the existence of god, and agnosticism is about not believing or disbelieving. It's just a matter of definition in the end, what actually matters is the meanings behind the words.

It's also not a clear line, you can for example have a slight belief that god doesn't exist, but this belief is superseded by the rational thought that there is no evidence of it nor the opposite, and ending up effectively having an agnostic conclusion. That's why words like that are always clearer when explained further in details.

That looks like a really nice laptop. I don't play games and code only or write prose. This looks like my next laptop as soon as my old one dies (which is unlikely to happen anytime soon, it's incredible how long laptops last)

Edge on Linux is great for getting boomers to use Linux.

So why bother about making init tools portable? You end up with a tool that works poorly on all OSes and nobody needs more of that.

Mildly related: I might try to convince my job to let me use Linux come device refresh time. But we use all Microsoft stuff. Is support for Teams, OneDrive, etc reliable on Linux? I have, of course, avoided it like the plague for personal use so I don't know. Is anyone else in a similar situation?

Hardly any of the core systemd people work at Redhat these days. Microsoft employs more of them then Redhat. Right now I think Lennarts new company employes several of the key systemd people.

Contributions are comming in from all major distributions though.

They went to shit long before LLMs, they went to shit for SEO and algorithmic capitalism.

You can't really control the use of tools though, that is the problem. AI detection doesn't work and leads to a lot of false positives. The only thing you can do is check if the product is good.

AI is horrible for the world but it is impossible to ban it for coding, as you can easily submit AI generated code that looks human.

He is not comparing the effects that tools have but that you can't control if someone uses them or not.

The only way I see for controlling the way AI is used, is if the AI companies put restrictions on it.

If you ban AI, the vibe coders will just lie about the origin of their code.

I don’t think systemd is an improvement.

Suddenly Lemmy is going to explain to me why AI is the best thing ever.

The original point was that expanding data centres doesn’t disprove a big increase in efficiency per token. Usage, advsnced models/tokens per query and infrastructure can all grow at the same time as the energy required for an individual token falls. And thats an ongoing process.

Companies you know cutting token spend, you thinking ubiquitous AI adoption is unrealistic, and newer models using more tokens per query are all arguments about future/total demand. None of them actually tell us whether a token is dramatically cheaper or more energy efficient to produce than it was a year ago. Realistically thats a learning curve problem, if someone is throwing a basic question at a model far more complex than it needs they are creating the inefficiency and that needs to be made more obvious/streamlined.

I've not claimed demand had increased 900x. You inferred that from the existence of new data centres, which was the faulty bit of reasoning I was responding to in the first place.

All I know now is that Windows Defender keeps causing problems with people trying to install Deus Ex Randomizer just because it's an unpopular and unsigned program