Yeah, that guy is arguing that it's okay to harass women in elevators and putting words in my mouth but I'm the toxic one...

Wouldn't making sure that we were secure in the knowledge that we would always have access to the resources we need in the future be a better way to encourage spending since we'd no longer feel pressure to hoard it to guarantee our future security?

which, even with strangers, are a normal part of the human experience - don’t happen unless someone goes first.

Yeah, which why you have to read the fucking room. If you get in an elevator and they don't greet or otherwise make it apparent that they're open to conversation, you do not have a shot to take and they don't want one with you. Leave them alone. They're not in public to be fucking bothered, they're there to meet friends, or partake in some service or event. If you're not part of those things then you're not invited.

No, but you joined the discussion on the same side as someone who did, and never distanced yourself from that statement until now.

Fuck off, I wasn't taking anyone's side, I was calling out your bullshit about someone being trapped in an elevator with you entitling you to their attention.

I re-read my post, I didn't mean to imply that ALL attractive people were like that. It was just ones that have come and gone in my own life.

In your case maybe people get more offended than they really should because they're intimidated/jealous. I've not been on that side of the fence but I could see that being an issue. Also just in general I think people are less forgiving of women who don't act how they want, which sucks and isn't your fault. Maybe try self-deprecating humor if you haven't. That's what I switch to if I feel like I've said something insensitive to someone unintentionally. Or just apologize. Socializing successfully has always been a very "fake it til you make it" thing in my experience just keep trying and the anxiety will get better, or you'll at least learn to navigate around it.

Yeah, it might be annoying most of the time, but so are a lot of interactions.

If those interactions are unnecessary then they shouldn't happen either. Leave people the fuck alone.

If you follow that road you’d end up with anyone who talks to someone ever deserving to die in a fire which I think is unreasonable.

I never said anything about anyone deserving to die in a fire.

The whole mindset of even thinking about an "opener" or "shooting your shot" is creepy and entitled as fuck. Just be fucking normal, enter the elevator and say hi, then stfu and mind your business unless they give some indication that they're interested in conversing with you. You're not entitled to anyone's attention and you don't have a shot unless they offer you one.

I'm a very short and kind of ugly dude who used to feel that way. I got over feeling shitty about the fact that I couldn't go anywhere without being one of the least desirable dudes in the room by just doing my best with what I've got and focusing on the people who do value me. I accepted that I was never going to be the best in the looks department, but I can dress well and take care of myself and people notice that. I've trained myself to be pretty easy going and I'm decent at making people laugh and try to just be nice to people in general which helps too. I still don't get a ton of romantic interest (though there is some of that) but I have friends who like having me around which is nice.

I know things aren't all the same for women but I hope that helps, not everything is about looks and people aren't all shallow. Being hot isn't everything, and really isn't even that valuable in the long run if you can't back it up with a good personality. There's always "hot" people coming and going in my social circle that don't stick around because they don't really bring anything else to the table. The "regular" people all have interesting shit to do or talk about and they're the ones we make sure to invite along on things.

So if I scream in your face for the duration of the ride on an elevator that's perfectly fine because I'm not actually physically hurting you?

That's 15 seconds too long. You're not entitled to annoy people just because they'll be able to leave soon.

Now that I think about it, getting everyone laid would be a fantastic team building exercise.

I use fx to access smb shares

The house I live in is 4 years old and half the doors don't close right.

Do literally anything besides parenting.

I once worked at a place where we had to put signs up telling people not to put paper towels in the urinals. Three of us had a coordinated investigation going on to figure out who was doing it, we were down to only two or three suspects before the signs went up.

If a solid California 10 walks up to you at the bar right outside of the base, and she seems really interested in what you do for work, she’s not interested in you.

Okay but will she fuck me in exchange for secrets? Apparently I'm unfuckable in this scenario, this could be my only chance.

Never seen a single thing from him indicating he had any problem with his father. He's old enough to have his own presence so that fact that he doesn't indicates his complicity.

My experience with them was very good. They had my broken Skeletool back in just a few weeks.

We had a big magnet on wheels at the shop I used to work at. Could have easily modified it to work in a yard (if they don't already make such a thing).

I have significantly lower standards for betraying my company.

Prioritize prosecuting those who have committed crimes in support of the current administration. If you don't rid us of those motherfuckers first none of the social shit will stick.