I used to write the software to refresh and update student labs like that. There's nothing quite as satisfying as seeing the entire lab reboot simultaneously .. and nothing quite as frustrating as seeing all of them fail at the same point in the boot process .. thanks to Microsoft.
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Yes, but because it was completely pre-enshitification internet, with so much hope and promise to be something good for everyone.
It was kinda shit but it was shit because it was shit. It was improving every day and the sky was the limit.
Thats what I miss most about the past. The feeling of hope. Things would get better. Tomorrow was a bright place.
The continuous improvement is what I remember the most! At least how I remember the internet of old, it was like a constant stream of something new, from random funny links of random sites, to big new major projects surfacing. It was cool
Anyone, could throw up a website and get hits, and feel like the world gave a damn. Remember when your site visit counter was THE coolest part of your little site??
Yeah, it was a pretty fun time, before the feeling that everything had to be owned by a mega corporation that would wring every drop off cash out of it.
I distinctly remember the 90s internet. It was a paradise.
Internet? You are a baby! In my days we had to bring our floppies and the day we were able to run that banner making software my life changed.
I was going to say something similar. Stuff ran slow because of slow processing not because of a shit load of overhead like now bad webui and stuff.
Pre Internet
I don't know if I miss this or if I miss being young but yes.
Maybe I just miss using a computer without ads all over the place.
The computers were always slow. SSDs are a wonderful thing as are multicore processors.
But I miss when I had a positive view of tech.
I still have a positive view of the technology, it's the people who demand that they control every aspect of it that I'm weary of.
Yeah, SSDs are one of the biggest innovations in computer speed in my memory. That, and actual good internet. I was raised with dial-up and HDDs, though I remember my dad coding (and playing things) with MS-DOS before I was old enough to understand it. I fully remember going to a game site and loading up a 2MB Adobe Flash game. I had time to go make a sandwich while it downloaded.
I had lots of games individually bookmarked, because it saved a lot of time compared to waiting like 30 seconds for each page to load. If I only bookmarked the site’s landing page, I would have to wait for the welcome page to load, then the Games section to load, then the first page of the Action Games genre to load, then the second page of the Action Games section to load, before I could finally get to my game. Even skipping those four or five pages and going directly to the game page could easily save a solid 2-3 minutes of waiting.
I'll never forget booting into an SSD for the first time on my 2011 MacBook Pro. It was absolutely mind-blowing how much faster it was. A few weeks later I upped the RAM to 16gb and it was like I was carrying a supercomputer.
I miss computer time being something special.
I miss who I was in those days. Or more to the point, I miss not worrying about bills, the state of the world, the health and well-being of my family. I miss that my biggest concerns were around school exams and girls.
And yeah, I do miss the culture of the time, and the general attitude of hopefulness that seemed to pervade. But times change, life moves on, and as they say, the past is a foreign country; they do things differently there.
I miss most of all when the internet was the domain of nerds only. Us nerds are nicer than other people on average.
The Internet was for anybody. I think it was a mistake to foist it on everybody.
I used to think so too. Turns out a lot of nerds were just one culture-war grievance away from going full Nazi.
Or when "bad", a hell of a lot more entertaining, like Archimedes Plutonium for example.
I don’t miss the misogyny. It’s still around but not as acceptable generally, and easier to find other women now.
As someone who had to maintain school computers I will say with certainty that I don't miss those old ball mice.
You would've liked me then. I would scrape that stuff off just as a weird stim toy type activity.
That third wheel was a bit more annoying since it was on a spring and therefore harder to scrape.
Just have to press down and scrape sideways. Optical mice rule.
Yeah, just a much lengthier process.
oh man optical mice and lcds was the best thing ever for IT. I got everyone in my family optical mice one xmass when they got pretty cheap and when people just did not realize how much a quality of life improvement they were. I think I included a mouse pad that was a good surface in case they had a desk with little contrast. Then at work I was pushing conversion to lcd and sunsetting crts so hard.
The place I worked for had the contract for all school computers in our part of the state. After two years or so of buying huge numbers of mice because the teachers couldn't be bothered to keep the kids from stealing or throwing the balls from the mice we started using epoxy to glue in the balls. The teachers immediately started complaining about the kids complaining about it. I was out of that part of IT when Optical mice became more common but I'm sure it was a great relief to those that were still maintaining that pile.
I assume your talking you glued the plastic that held the ball in the mouse because at first read it sounds like you glued the ball and im like. Yeah I bet there would be complaints :)
No we did not glue the ball. Why would anyone consider that a solution?
yeah it just sounded like it initially while reading your comment. It was sorta funny to visualize.
We just glued the cover in place. It made cleaning them difficult but the guy that ran the company came up with a way to do it quickly in bulk. On the next contract they put provisions in on peripherals and the problem became the schools problem. They quickly determined they could do something about their students behavior.
I miss not being exposed to every low IQ chode's trashcan opinions on social media. And I really miss not watching those low IQ chode's trashcan opinions influencing large numbers of other low IQ chodes into doing things like making a felon rapist pedophile our leader.
I too miss the day when the internet was for geeks and nerds, (and anyone who wasn't never left MySpace). Now everyone is online, and the novelty has been ruined. Not to mention how much more centralized the internet is now, compared to 20-30 years ago. Everyone visits the same five websites/apps now.
The barrier to entry was real, I had to figure out how to write a dialup script for my first PC to connect to the internet I purchased from the local high school. I didn't go there, that was just the only place in town with enough internet to resell.
It's good that everyone has access to information now. The impact it's had on visual arts and music really can't be overstated, it allows artists to reach their fans directly which is incredible. But it was a different place when everyones grandma wasn't reading Breitbart and repeating it on social media.
I agree the centralization of everyone on a handful of sites is an issue, it makes it too easy to manipulate and rig. I feel like social media was an incredible mistake but I don't know if we'll ever be able to put that genie back in the bottle.
I miss not being exposed to every low IQ chode's trashcan opinions on social media
That's on you. Social media is not a necessity, it's actually pretty simple to avoid.
not watching those low IQ chode's trashcan opinions influencing large numbers of other low IQ chodes into doing things like making a felon rapist pedophile our leader.
Thomas Jefferson, Grover Cleveland, and Bill Clinton predate social media.
Bill Clinton predate social media
Still alive.
So? He was elected in 1992. Social media had nothing to do with it.
So?
So words matter, buddy.
Predate doesn't only mean that someone lived and died before something else. I predate combined Taco Bell/KFC/Pizza Huts Kentaco Huts, but I'm also still living. Like Bill.
So do points, you should find one
What do you mean, old enough?
Those are fairly modern computers. They don't even have 5.25-inch floppy drives!
Yes I do. I was too poor to have my own "modern" computer. Yet I was way ahead of anyone else in the class. So they would just let me fuck off and do whatever I wanted to avoid disruptions.
Going to university in the late 90s/early 00s, when not everyone had home computers and especially not laptops. We had the computer lab in the basement where were could go to print out essays, do research, etc.
There was the library as well with a few computers on each floor, but those were always taken, and lab access came with our tuition anyway.
Other than that and a rather simple cellphone, we were device free. We still took notes by hand, copiously highlighted lines in ridiculously overpriced text books, met with friends at the coffee shop to study, and essentially kept technology compartmentalised.
Do I miss it? Oh hell yes.
I feel lucky that i didn't had to study like that lol
To each their own I supposed. But I firmly believe you retain more knowledge, the more senses that you use when learning.
If I'm reading the material (sight), highlighting the notes (touch), and listenting to the prof (sound), I'm triggering more synapses and as a result hold more of the information in.
Letting an A.I. summarize it for you, or just recording in on a laptop voice-to-text while zoning out for the hour of that class, is completely useless because you don't actually learn anything except how to ask the computer for the answer.
Letting an A.I. summarize it for you, or just recording in on a laptop voice-to-text while zoning out for the hour of that class, is completely useless because you don't actually learn anything except how to ask the computer for the answer.
That's hella of an assumption of what i do(and other people do) lol;
I just don't want to write every note by hand (Dysgraphia and dysorthography don’t help) and have to use a public device to write my notes, schemes etc etc
We're the same age or thereabouts. I have very similar memories. I was lucky enough to get a PowerBook 1400c as a graduation gift from high school. Laptops were still something of a rarity with students, though.
Perhaps because of its relative heft, I don't remember carrying it around much, and certainly not to class. I lived in an older dorm that didn't have Ethernet, so we dialed up to the campus modem bank and either used school shell accounts or PPP for internet connectivity. I ran some PhoneNet and LocalTalk around the dorm to connect with a few other Mac users
I had a Nokia 5190 phone which got a lot of use playing Snake, but it wasn't a constant presence in my life.
Playing Unreal Tournament and Duke Nuken 3D with everyone else in the lab.
Yes, comprehensible systems? Just enough to be very exciting? Positive energy? My youth? The music?
Uh, yes?
Mid 90s. Our school built its first computer lab. The guy they hired to teach students how to use computers was probably in his mid-20s. He installed Doom on a few PCs, and the few of us who figured out there were games hung around near the end of the school day to see if he would allow us to play. He eventually let us when he was convinced we won't tell anyone.
I don't remember how I got involved, but I somehow convinced the school that I knew what I was doing and they let me (starting as a 16 year old student in 1997) create my own elective class where I spent one period every day working with that same 20 something computer lab guy. We built the lab together, just me and this dude who just barely graduated, alone for an hour a day. We put together Frankenstein machines with parts from old busted 286s and rarely a coveted 386. I learned to set up a Novell NetWare network and throw expansion slot cover plates like shuriken.
I still remember working in that lab when the Phantom Menace trailer released online and we downloaded the .mov file (and required QuickTime 3.0 player) to view it in stunning 480x216. That's sub 240p. It looked fucking amazing.
No. Not one bit.
Between the 50Hz fluorescent tubes that were common at the time and the cheap shit monitors running at 60Hz, also common at the time, I had migraines 3-4 times a week.
I categorically do not miss those days.
I miss youth and the sort of reckless abandon and constant sense of wonder. The easy friendships and stuff. The discovery of learning tech. The tech was cool and new and dramatic but our tech is def cooler now.
Things are pretty cool now too if you look for it. Sure there are problems but there have always been problems. I look for things to trigger my sense of wonder and it still feels amazing. Just harder to find cus I'm more experienced and well traveled or whatever.
I dunno I was a goofball kid working at tech then and I'm a goofball kid in a old body oggling tech now too :D
I can SMELL this room. Like ink toner, burnt dust, ozone, and slightly cooked plastic.
Also, yes and no. There were many positives and negatives. I just really fucking hate the fascist politics and the absolute horseshit that has enabled to proper and grow. In many ways, it's like we all died in 2016 and this is a parallel nightmare dimension leading to really bad shit.
Do I miss those days, like in that picture? In some ways, yes, but in many ways, no.
If that doesn't truly make sense to you, you aren't old enough to understand and I'm not about to explain it.
I'll be honest I don't really miss a lab full of win95 shit boxes further crippled by net nanny. It was just a partial escape from the other abuses of middle and high school.
I miss the freedom. We would sneak out of class, play games, smoke weed, fuck. Sneak out of the house at 1am, cause hell, be back in bed for school. No ring cams, no cell phones. I didnt have all the bullshit of the world shoved in my face daily. Just hop on my bike, be back before night. I dont miss my circumstances though, my childhood was ruined by adults and social workers. I still remember the era fondly though. Life was good. I had friends and loves who I cared so deeply about. I didnt feel so strongly about anyone until I had kids. I dont think I ever will again.
Yeah and would go back.
I used to be excited about the future. Now Im excited about the past.
Yes. Although, more than the technology or the culture, I probably miss being a kid with a bright future ahead of him...
Why am I crying?
Because life seemed simpler back then. You were probably being looked after and sheltered by someone else, and the world seemed like a much nicer place.
Now you're older with responsibilities and might have taken on the looking after and sheltering, almost certainly for yourself, but maybe a few other humans too. And the world's on f--king fire.
That's why we cry.
The tech has evolved a lot. Especially in the FOSS area! And I am thankful for the progress. But along the way, the average culture is what I miss the most. Do I miss the very convoluted, fragile, non-standardized, and hard to configure hardware? Heehee naw.
This image is nostalgic because it recalls when personal computers were conceptually personal, even when they were public. New tech was fun and exciting.
Some of my fondest memories were easy LAN parties and collabing on XP-era machines in my 3D Studio MAX class. Also, computers didn't feel near-useless without an Internet connection.
It's been said before but bears repeating: "The Internet was a place." It didn't follow you everywhere, spy on you, sell you out. You weren't supposed to divulge your whole life to strangers, but somehow you still made new friends.
People logged in to hang out. Heck, know what I miss most? People seemed to have TIME to log in and hang out. Even busy people. These days I feel hurried to smash out a text message while in motion.
People made personal, expressive, whimsical websites for fun, and not just as a hopeful web-dev portfolio. The Internet was only about making money for tie-wearing squares; everyone else just did things for the fun of it.
I think that's what we miss. People were learning and using these miraculous machines that were capable of anything.
Now the machines are consumption-first appliances primarily aimed to drain your wallet and personal information, and the people have gotten so dumb. Computer literacy dropped with all the rest of kinds of literacy, and I long to find a way to push against that tide...
Yes and no.
Computers and computer systems weren’t so much enshittified back in those days.
But the bulk CRT screens, I don’t miss those…
By the way, at those times almost every screen had one of those stupid placebo ‘glare filters’ . I don’t miss those either.
The mouse was the rolly ball kind, and you hoped that you were assigned a computer where it still worked properly, or you could arrive in time to grab one where the mouse still worked. Or, if your lunch period coincided with the lab class lunch period, you came in to swap mouses with the bully in the senior class.
Yeah, you could do the thing where you remove the ball and try to clean it, but that only works so much, and for so many times
I had to clean a hundred of them every quarter for a couple of years (work study was in the computer lab).
Since the build up was oils from people's hands you needed the right cleaners.
The balls got tossed into hot soapy water. Soak them for 10 minutes and they came out clean.
The rollers inside the mice were the worst. They required a Q-tip with some acetone or rubbing alcohol. For the really stubborn ones, I pulled out the naptha.
I was lucky in the early 90s in that my dad had a PC for work. A 14.4 modem and random BBS's to dial up to, and I got an interesting first experience with computers. Our local library had UNIX PCs, so I had to learn random protocols like telnet and gopher to access anything. Once I got to middle school we had labs like this. I definitely miss the LAN café feel of that era.
Man, I remember being blown away after getting a 14.4 modem after dialing up with my 2400 from the family 286.... Data was instant, those ANSI greetings from the BBS were just there.
Yep. My first email address started with x.400, first BBS was Heartland Freenet, first newsreader was Usenet, 3600 baud modem at home, connecting through OCLC.
I miss having enough friends that we could have a full 5v5 in CS without needing bots or the server open to the internet. Especislly true of high school, where I had CS and a few other games installed on the network (we had a networking class and our teacher was also the IT manager for the district and the 5 people in the class were given admin access for something and it was never revoked) so literally every PC on the network had access to it and you could be playing a game in any class, any period.

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