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[–] 6 points 4 months ago*

(That's the point).

Been saying since the start: Iran is likely in on all this

  • IRGC Coup -- The IRGC has LONG been wanting to make a move over the Ayatollah. Now the new Ayatollah is a sockpuppet and the IRGC has completely taken over by way of coup.

  • Quelled Civil Unrest -- Prior to this conflict, civil unrest in Iran was heavily mounting. Thousands upon thousands out on the street. Now Iranian dissidents hopeful for being rescued were baited out of their homes, only to be slaughtered the first time Trump left them hanging, and the second time Israel and USA suddenly became the new threat and rallied the masses around while also indicating nobody was actually coming to save them from the tyranny within.

  • Superficial Damage -- Most damage done to Iran has largely been superficial for media optics. Even their nuclear program has largely remained intact.

  • New Cashflow -- Not only has this massively benefitted Russia with lifted oil sanctions, the IRGC got a massive injection into their own economy, both with the new toll system but also the literal cited fucking article above.

Meanwhile Trump doesn't give a shit. His goal as a Trojan Orange has been a success.

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  • [–] 20 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    News outlets like to pretend that cessation of further attacks is failure. We started the war with a Tomahawk missile which killed 168 people, more than 100 school children. Destroyed apartments, hospitals, bridges, water supply. Continuing that shit would have been a success? A victory?

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  • I mean, America likes to destroy civilizations (a country that has Native genocide as its origin story), it's the anti-civ "civ" after all, so I guess it is an American failure. Now, those now left in power in Iran could still sell off the country to Western oligarchs, which would be a victory for America but that's still seemingly undecided.

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  • [+] -3 points 4 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    Not really, because he describes an escalation, which is the third option. As in there are 2 ways to continue the war, status quo or escalation, and the alternative to those is the peace agreement.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    Holy fuck I've never seen someone so callously support continuing to kill civilians just to get "a better deal" when it took 3 months of killing civilians and life supporting infrastructure to get to this deal.

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    [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    TBF this thing didn't last the better part of a decade and a half and cost hundreds of thousands of American lives. The war on "terror" was a better comparison

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    This. Isn't. Over. Yet.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    Look, everyone talks about Vietnam… terrible situation, lots of mistakes by the generals, very sad… but what we did with Iran, let me tell you, it makes Vietnam look like an absolute walk in the park. The incompetent leaders in Washington gave us a total disaster with Iran, frankly the worst failure in the history of our country, maybe ever, believe me!

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago* (3 children)

    There something wrong with archive. sites or unwall.app?

    Just put the article link after unwall.app:

    https://unwall.app/foreignpolicy.com/2026/06/16/iran-vietnam-strategy-defeat/

    Hm, that seems to still have sign up, but archive.is has whole thing:

    https://archive.is/rsAQV

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    Yes I could do that, and try the many different options until I find one that works.

    OR!

    OP could provide a link that actually works, so everybody didn't have to hunt for it.

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