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[–] 46 points 5 months ago (16 children)

I told you it was always about oil . It was always not only about israel colonial interests but also american imperialist interests

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  • [–] 21 points 5 months ago (13 children)

    I mean..... Israeli colonial interests and American imperialist interest are kinda the same thing.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (12 children)

    Most people at least those vocal on lemmy claims that it's only about Israel colonial interests. It is about both

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (10 children)

    I disagree. This is spin with no possibility of pay off. It's still all about Israel weakening Iran and annexing Lebanon.

    And the obscene ammount of blackmail generated by Epstein and Maxwell of course.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    Why the blackmail did not make Trump go back completely to full scale war on Iran or the allow isrsel to officially annex the whole west bank and abolish the PA?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    Because Israel is evil not stupid? Their plan is working great.

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    I wouldn't say waiting more like slow walking... You can only use kompromat once, but you can threaten to use it forever.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    The israeli leaders already expressed that they want full scale war resumptions now and never wanted negociations at all. It would be easy to get it if it was all about blackmailing

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    The negotiations have been a joke. Even if they could agree on anything, Israel won't let them happen. But full scale war is just not an option. Politically or militarily. So we get this siege/stalemate. America keeps Iran busy while Israel goes full speed on the annexation.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago*

    But full scale war is just not an option. Politically or militarily.

    You are proving my point. Israel want the full scale war to continue. The USA is still not returning to full war because like you said a full scale war is a bad option for the USA. Taco once again backtracked about occupying Kharg Island. Trump is an idiot the yesterday attacks was not done because Israel asked it but because Trump again thought doing it would give the USA more leverage in the negotiations, he is wrong.

    The reason the stalemate exists is because Iran will not give up it's right to get compensations from the usa and removal of sanctions and the usa regardless of who in charge would not want to remove sanctions because it is the cornerstone of the usa imperialist strategy.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    I told you it was always about oil

    More broadly, it is about western imperial expansion. Control of the Red Sea. Control of the Suez Canal. The ability to cut China and Russia off from international markets (specifically, trade with India and West Africa).

    Oil was a big part of it, but not the whole.

    It was always not only about israel colonial interests but also american imperialist interests

    They're joined at the hip.

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  • [–] 26 points 5 months ago

    Obviously they're doing this to protect the world from Iran using nuclear weapons. I cannot think of any other reason. Just like Venezuela.

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  • [–] 19 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Good luck with that one. Even if they do go through with this threat, have fun holding it.

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  • [–] 16 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    He’s going to get a lot of service members killed to gain nothing

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Oh look another round of stock manipulation for profit.

    Someone in the Whitehouse making bets!?

    What a joke.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago

    Iran has been given 24 hrs to respond before they get another 72....

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Incoming diesel at $10 a gallon at the pump!

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago

    Aaaaaaand he's chickened out. In other news, water is wet.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago

    Attacking, then stealing.

    I really wish Bonespurs McFuckUp would go to the Middle East for once just to oversee... That'd be nice, don't you think? I'm sure it's be safe.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Trump says

    fuck him, I don't care. He lies more than he breaths.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    Ahhh. 😌 Another fine example of the United States liberating a country. Long live democracy!!

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Great OpSec. Giving away our military plans? The Iranians won't see it coming.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    OK, when this was expected in the first few days, it was not as stupid. Still stupid, but now they've given them months to prepare. This has always been the most obvious target for an invasion. There's no way it isn't a trap at this point. If they did it fast then at least they wouldn't be dug in. Now, a lot more people are going to die for nothing. It doesn't move any closer to ending the conflict.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Watching Trump is like watching someone thrash around in quick sand; every time he makes a move, he ends up sinking even deeper.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    He's a bottom dweller. He's just getting closer to his natural habitat. Too bad he'll just drag everyone with him.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    I wonder how many decades of blowback this shit will return to US and Israel. I remember bombings in the 80s attributed as payback for events in the 70s.... and thinking, man, we haven't seen anything yet. oooof

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    The only thing Trump is hitting hard at night is his stimulants!

    What a joke of a man.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    It’s amazing that Iran has gone from a pariah state to something of an underdog. The regime was on the nose and the Demented Don arrived diverted attention to him. A master stroke launching Operation Epstein Fury!

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  • [+] -54 points 5 months ago (6 children)
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    [–] 29 points 5 months ago

    Bored of peace.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago

    Maybe we could just show him footage from BF3 and he’ll think it’s real

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    Nothing bad can happen, it can only good happen. 😡🤬🤦

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    If I were dumb enough to be a marine or a ranger, I'd definitely be thinking of creative ways to get a medical discharge right about now. Better to be suckling at the teat of the Va and disability than either dying on a beach or die while riding a helicopter crashing into another helicopter.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    Trump says he loves inflation, I'm sure he'll love massive military casualties too then.

    Remember this one? The Atlantic published a report citing anonymous sources alleging that, during a 2018 trip to France, Trump referred to American war dead at the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery as "losers" and the Marines who died at Belleau Wood as "suckers".

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Probably not tons of casualties. Iran doesn't have any particular need to keep kharg going if they can't export oil, if it's looking like an invasion they'll just destroy the place and a temporary reduction in distribution of oil suddenly becomes much much longer and even more expensive.

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  • [–] 19 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    A few months ago, I would have said that taking the island would be relatively easy, given the size and strength of the US military, but keeping it would be the hard part.

    Now I don't know if we could even take it. These fucking assholes have hollowed out our military.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I thought they were going to take it when sending troops there early in the war, I think that it's too vulnerable to drone and missile strikes to hold nowadays now, or else the navy would've taken it already.

    This is another half baked negotiation tactic from the greatest mind in the world, that of our 80 some year old piece of shit president.

    They can prevent Iran from using it, if they try to set up a base there, it's vulnerable to attacks.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    Most of Iran is a mountain sticking out of the water, meaning any landing force has to arrive on a small sliver of undefended sand and drive single file over mountain roads with drones picking them off, or attack fortified places white being pelted by drones. It won't be a happy casualty count.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    Pete Hegseth quoted as saying “I’ve always wanted to visit Car Guy Land”

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago*

    C'mon.

    Start WW3.

    JUST DON'T TALK ABOUT IT.

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    [–] 13 points 5 months ago

    This is like saying you're going to steal your enemies favorite grenade. Sure you might be able to do it, but it's going to blow up in your face.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    I wonder what they could do at a desolate island.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    He sure does love his islands, amirite? Hah? Know w’I mean, eh? Wink wink nudge!

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    Clearly if the Trump administration wants to do war crimes they do it without announcement, like the water infrastructure in Sirik.

    So this Trump military plan announcement is yet another "in 2 weeks" type of thing.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Blablabkabla

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    [–] 8 points 5 months ago

    The Orange Pedo just might destroy them so that oil prices can remain high for years to come. So much MAGAt winning.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago*

    A bunch of dudes who joined the military because they loved playing Battlefield a bit too much are gonna be so hype to get murked on Kharg Island for Uncle Sam & Daddy T

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