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[–] 21 points 4 months ago

This is great news, thanks for posting.

The last paragraph in the article indicates that availability won't be immediate, but still a welcome change.

Sunscreens with bemotrizinol are expected to be available by the end of the year, according to the ingredient manufacturer DSM-Firmenich.

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  • [–] 39 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    Finally! Ive been waiting and importing sunscreens for years

    This is a big deal

    If youre not wearing sunscreen daily, especially so if in the southern half of the us, you ought to be. The worlds sunscreens outside of the us are much more enjoyable and protective to wear than whats previously been approved in the us.

    Theres still many great filters not yet approved, ill probably still be importing, i personally settled on the Reimann P20 sensitive skin - but ill definitely be checking out the new bemt filters as they come on US shelves to both save the environmental impact of shipping from europe and cost

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    What's better about them? Just curious.

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  • [–] 21 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Improved uv protection and longevity are the major points, so youll age more gently long term and you wont have to strictly reapply every 2 hours - since im mostly in doors minus a 20m daily walk, i only apply once in the morning

    But also the new sunscreens rub in and blend in better and dont feel as greasy so it not gross to put on and wear everyday

    I dont wear makeup, so if the sunscreen is super shiny or pilly my face looks wierd, i dont like how i look, not so with the new filters

    With my current sunscreen, its just part of the routine and its barely a thought for me - dosent smell bad, dosent feel bad, dosent make me feel sticky or tacky or greasy or shiny, i just put on 3 pumps (or finger lengths) to appropriatly protect my face, ears, and neck and its easy, and i use a cheaper american sunscreen on my arms to keep cost down

    Hard to describe, but i tried a bunch of fda-approved sunscreens once i understood how damaging the sun is and how it affects aging and skin cancer and never found one that i really liked, so i imported some from abroad at the suggestion of a friend and finally found my sunscreen, and now i feel naked without it, wheras it was a chore like eating boiled brussle sprouts before

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Brussels sprouts are great fried or roasted. Pretty much nothing is good boiled except pasta.

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  • [–] 33 points 4 months ago

    Seems to be considered reef safe, too.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago

    Holy shit it’s about time this happened!

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago
    [–] -1 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    Is this another chemical sunscreen?

    I prefer zinc oxide or titanium dioxide. The stuff they sell for baby butts always works better than the chemical stuff sold as sun screen.

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  • [–] 24 points 5 months ago (12 children)

    That’s pretty awesome. Shame it won’t be in time for this summer.

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    We get brief summers in all the seasons now thanks to climate change

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    It’s the UV that is the issue not the heat. Unless climate change shifts the tilt of Earths axis, your likelihood or receiving the rays will be more or less the same per season.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    You're right about the seasons remaining the same but climate change does have an effect on the clouds in the sky, meaning climate change does effect how much uv-light reaches the surface of our planet, despite the earth continuing to rotate around itself and the sun in the same way.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    It was more a joke about how we can go out in shorts a few weeks in every season now because of the extreme microclimate changes.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Why not? The products already exist in Asia and Europe and they are now legal to be imported into the US. You could see them on shelves next week, today even if some companies had insider information on this coming into effect and timed it well.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (2 children)

    Most products are specifically packaged for a given market. Especially with more regulated products, it's may be legal to import the product itself, but not in the packaging that is legal in other places. Plus there are language barriers, supply network differences, differences in store shelf standard sizes so bottles fit on shelves, etc. It likely will take time to design and produce the packaging, push the product to each stage of intermediate warehouses, and finally get it to stores.

    That said and individual could import their own, but you'll have to pay for the shipping yourself and deal with any market differences in pricing and costs of currency conversion if your credit card doesn't do it for free.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    Ever been to an Asian grocery store? They use the exact same packaging and slap a sticker over the nutritional label that complies with local laws. It’s perfectly legal and cheap.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago

    That doesn't get it to you any faster or much cheaper than just individuals just paying a foreign company to ship it to them direct. You're adding another middleman importer that needs to make a profit while developing and paying people to apply the labels and deal with customs, shipping, warehousing, etc. They might be able to do it faster than the normal way, but it definitely would add significant cost. And if you're trying to get people to buy a new product, it's not good to start with a noncompetitive price. It makes people see it as unaffordable even after the price eventually stabilizes. First impressions are a big deal in product marketing.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    Is this one of the ones that don't kill fish?

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    My impression has been that research doesnt actually support the concerns about sunscreen harming reefs, and that it was like one paper, the conclusions from which haven't been supported by wider reaseach? I could totally be wrong, I don't remember details very well

    Are we thinking of the same thing? Not sure if there's another aquatic life impact people are concerned about with UV filters used in sunscreen

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    This paper isn't free at the link but you can read the abstract, partially quoted below:

    Toxicopathological Effects of the Sunscreen UV Filter, Oxybenzone (Benzophenone-3), on Coral Planulae and Cultured Primary Cells and Its Environmental Contamination in Hawaii and the U.S. Virgin Islands

    "We examined the effects of oxybenzone on the larval form (planula) of the coral Stylophora pistillata, as well as its toxicity in vitro to coral cells from this and six other coral species. Oxybenzone is a photo-toxicant; adverse effects are exacerbated in the light. Whether in darkness or light, oxybenzone transformed planulae from a motile state to a deformed, sessile condition. Planulae exhibited an increasing rate of coral bleaching in response to increasing concentrations of oxybenzone. Oxybenzone is a genotoxicant to corals, exhibiting a positive relationship between DNA-AP lesions and increasing oxybenzone concentrations. Oxybenzone is a skeletal endocrine disruptor; it induced ossification of the planula, encasing the entire planula in its own skeleton."

    Also there's this: 11/19/21-MAUI COUNTY COUNCIL PASSES HISTORIC BILL PROHIBITING NON-MINERAL SUNSCREENS

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    Because I am specifically thinking it may have been a paper that researchers dont feel reflect the broader body of evidence, I'd probably consider a meta analysis or systematic review more meaningful thank just one paper, as that paper may be the one I'm thinking of that is regarded as not accurately portraying the risk

    I might be entirely mixed up, I may try to go looking for what I'm thinking of. If I do I'll try to provide an update

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    Oxybenzone is toxic to people by the way, it's an endocrine disruptor. Which is bad.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    As with all toxicological issues, the dose makes the poison

    I have not read the research on oxybenzone specifically but "endocrine disruptor" tends to be a favorite claim for folks making unsubstantiated claims that some cosmetics ingredient is actually hazardous, and that need to be afraid of it

    I don't know if theres a meaningful body of evidence to suggest that there are potential health problems caused by it, I would be curious to see if I can find a meta analysis on the subject, or at least systematic review so I can get a sense for the consensus, but I do find myself generally being skeptical of just about any claim that something used topically is a endocrine disruptor, since it feels it almost always turns up to be a distortion of facts when you go digging into the consensus presented by the research

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    No. Not all toxics are only toxic at heavy doses. Endocrine disruptors are cumulatively bad, just as glyphosate is, or cigarettes. Just because you don't die or get noticeably sick doesn't mean it doesn't cause damage.

    Arsenic for instance. It's poison at any dose, replacing your calcium in your bones amongst many other things.

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    [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    Bemotrizinol, for those who don't want to click.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    must be a typo, or there must be someone specific who's gonna make some coin off it.. like a fast tracked product approval and first-to-market while their stocks go up and competitors wait.. and wait..

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