I feel like Mickey wouldn't be THAT shocked.
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Oh, Scott Adams died?
Nothing of value was lost.
I used to like his comics as a kid but now, having worked as a software developer for years... I'm starting to look at them different. He was always so fucking demeaning about the pointy haired bald boss, made him an absolute idiot. The constant joke was that the chad Dilbert was smarter than the idiot manager who never understood a thing about technology.
I bet Scott was an absolute fucking asshole in the office and hated having to be told what to do by people he saw as less than him.
I had a boss in a development job once, post dot com that made the pointy haired boss look like a genius. He wasn't just uneducated, he was mean and sometimes awful.
One of his favorite games was three options. For every task he wanted three options to do it. Once you gave him three, he would pick what he deemed the worst of the three just to watch people squirm.
One day after a particularly uninspired rant, one of the devs waited till he went to lunch and threw his keys into the recycling shredder box. I never went that far myself, but I fully understood it.
Then you start to consider how backward and stupid he made foreigners.
He noted that taking ivermectin and fenbendazole to treat the cancer did not work.
I liked dilbert a lot before knowing that the author is like that.
Is a pitty how you can't enjoy nothing without the author ruining it anymore.
Don't feel bad. I decided to play ATV Offroad Fury 2 a few months back. I was thoroughly enjoying the soundtrack and decided to google what band made "Shinobi vs Dragon Ninja" since it was my favorite song on the soundtrack.
Oh a band named the Lostprophets. Oh the lead singer Ian Watkins was murdered in prison. Wait why was he in prison? OH... oh no.
Don't google your heros kids.
According to a quick google search, he tried to rape a baby.
Like that's something I'd joke about someone doing when sarcastically branding them evil.... But no he actually tried to rape an infant.
What the fuck?
Fuuuuck, I forgot how much I like that song and how I knew all that already. Damn. There's been several bands and singers over the years I've had to forget. I'm not very good at separating art and artist.
One of the (arguably) greatest poets of the 20th century, Ezra Pound, was an unrepentant fascist. His family tried to have him declared insane in order to preserve his reputation.
A few modern poets were. William Butler Yeats is another I know of. His image is somewhat sanitized because he's an important national poet for Ireland, but he was a rich asshole who was supportive of the fascist movements in Ireland (Blueshirts) and abroad (Francoist Spain). Similar (but less overt) is T. S. Eliot, who also became sympathetic to fascism later in life.
I feel that way about a lot of creatives.
The content can be good when the person is a shitcake.
Actors, musicians, artists and writers. Every medium has loads of public and secret assholes.
Ignorance is bliss when you're not paying for it.
Yeah I hear ya, I was a huge Ren & Stimpy fan growing up.
Wait. Scott Adams died in January and I didn't know!? Where is his grave? I have a dance routine I'd love to perform.
I will say, the Dilbert guy died, looo CR CR Scott Adams died, oh what a tiresome little dfuck HaruphadumphHaruphadumph
Scott Adams is dead! I didn't know. He died in January of this year. A shitty fucking person with a horrible world view is no longer putting content on the internet. Happy to learn this.
(I liked Dilbert as a kid and owned a couple of his non-Dilbert books. It's sad how he went full-rightwing-nuttter later in life.)
The non dilbert books spoke to me as an edgy teen who was smarter than most people and dumber than she thought. As an adult though I look back and think about the sheer lack of wisdom and introspection it must take to write such things as a grown adult. He died as he lived, as wise as a 16 year old and angry that everyone else didn't see the light of his brilliance that he so vividly hallucinated. And I think that is how he fell down the right wing rabbit hole, he lacked the self awareness to see through his biases and was deeply drawn to a certain type of men who are overconfident assholes.
But yeah I liked dilbert as a kid too
I will take this opportunity to recommend a podcast ep about him from the QAA podcast:
https://soundcloud.com/qanonanonymous/episode-43-scott-adams
I hope I found the right ep. The ep number is so low that it makes me wonder if the one I wanted was a later ep? Too many total to go through and verify.)
And Behind the Bastards:
He became pretty unhinged later in life. He put some bizarre content into the world.
i liked god's debris but yeah i think if i read it now 20 years later may be a little cringy
And it's fair, it's ok to like cringy novels so long as they aren't Ayn Rand. /hj But yeah, I totally get how an edgy atheist novel would appeal ro people in the 00s. Adams was really good, especially early on, at making people feel like they were one of the only smart people in a world of idiots. It's just that when you embrace that feeling too hard you open yourself up to becoming a nutjob crank who believes everything they think, which is what he did.
If you hate the hater, you become one of them. Just look at him as a person who was confused.
If shitty person #1 does a shitty thing to shitty person #2, doesn't make shitty person #1 less shitty
Shit clings to one another until some other shit comes along.
Does it need to? I just love it when shitty things happen to shitty people. Its karma.
Absolutely not and it's ok to HA-HA in his face as long as the joke stays fresh, but I wouldn't call the girl "queen": she's just a gold digger that gave a valid argument for even more misoginy from the other side
You think gold digging warrants misogyny? Yikes 🤢
She just played the capitalist patriarchy, good on her. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
I read their comment in a way 'that stands in the way of eradicating misogyny' not in a way 'it makes misogyny allowed'
Thank you, you reasonable person
Ah, but you're forgetting that this is the age of the internet, when discussing potential solutions to a problem (or root causes of that problem so that real solutions can be found) is basically equivalent to providing justification for that problem.
We're just supposed to paper over everything to make it presentable to an audience, even if beneath the surface everything is still a wreck. Superficial, temporary solutions are preferable to lasting solutions that address the problems at their roots.
Something about toxic positivity, and confusing descriptivism with prescriptivism.
"Does" ≠ "Should" (strawmen hate this one little trick!)
Yeah that's how I interpreted it too. However, even with that interpretation, it feels like they're blaming the victim for their own subjugation.
It's akin to saying that black people stealing from Walmart gets in the way of eradicating racism, without addressing the reason why they have to steal in the first place. If they had money for groceries, they wouldn't be stealing. Likewise, if that young woman had enough money to live a comfortable life, I highly doubt she would have spent two years of her life married to that crusty old man. Subjugated people do what they have to do to survive.
We all word things the wrong way sometimes, and that's okay. Everyone deserves a chance to clarify what they meant. In this case, however, it seems that pH3ra has only continued to double down on their original statement.
I said think gold digging brings misoginy by consequence, I never said I think it justifies it.
Don't put words in my mouth just to cry for a cause there is no need to fight here.
And as a side, I always found the phrase "don't hate the player, hate the game" as dumb as the culture who coined it: who the hell is playing the game? The spectators? Of course you hate the players, they're the only reason the game is being played!
You literally called it a valid argument, don't know how else to interpret that.
Would you consider it misogyny if someone mentions gold diggers in a conversation about dating? Or if they talk about gold diggers in any context at all? Or if someone even acknowledges that gold diggers exist?
Because a lot of people would consider that misogyny.
But an instagram model openly being a gold digger lends credence to the argument that "some women are gold diggers."
So if you consider it misogyny to acknowledge that some women are gold diggers, then a woman being a gold digger is, by your very definitions, creating a pretext to justify misogyny.
(Funny how women can generalize about men, but when men generalize about women it's suddenly a problem; or even if they don't generalize but cite specific examples, people will still make a strawman argument about them generalizing so even that's bad).
don't know how else to interpret that.
It involves assuming the point of view of a misoginist who feels entitled to be misoginistic. I know it's not a position you thought you'd end up when you woke up this morning, but trying to understand what's going on in other people's head is a first step towards fighting intolerance.
"women should behave a certain way to not justify misogyny" comes off about as well as "black people should behave a certain way to not justify racism", imo
i appreciate your intentions, but this is not the way
It's not that.
It's, "if you rob someone at gunpoint then you can't cry racism when you get arrested."
It's, "if you're a gold digger, then you can't cry misogyny when someone calls you a gold digger."
Behave however you want, but if you take advantage of people then you don't get to hide behind "systemic oppression" to avoid facing consequences.
so two wrongs make a right when two wrongs make two wrongs?
One turn deserves another.
"So two wrong makes a right" is said when the responding party has nothing to stand on and needs some tired old broken statement to back up their lack of argument. When anyone says that the proper response is always "One turn deserves another". A equally useless ambiguous statement in response.
Lol my buddy just married one of those. I don't know the terms of their pre-nup, or if they even did one. Wish we had a remind me bot so I could report back in 2 years!
That's rough what is that, my brain and psyche are all so fucked I started to think about fucking all of the billionaires
This seems relevant

I remember back in the early 90s our sysadmin would grab Dilbert comics from (I think) USENET and print them on our HP laser printer. Adams built up so much goodwill only to shit all over it in the end.
Also wasn't walt disney like even shittier? How is mickey mouse surprised by this?
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So you're saying mickey would be indifferent?
Oh he cared alright, about fingering anyone who tried to unionize as communists, ruining their lives and blacklisting them. He ruined people who were not even communist because they cost him money. He was absolutely a garbage human being.
Dilbert would have hated Adams. PHB is basically Trump and somehow he completely missed it. What a shame.
No no no. PHB is Elon Musk, 100%. (Doesn't know shit about anything and is dumber than a bag of rocks, but is still very enthusiastic about going forth and fucking things up.) Trump is like the CEO of Dilbert's company (a lot dumber than the PHB, but fortunately too stupid to function most of the time, so his direct subordinates have to do the actual day-to-day fuck-ups, leaving only the most gigantic massive fuck-ups for him to handle personally).
Edit: And of course it comes as no surprise that when Adams went into the deep end, he worked to "rehabilitate" PHB and other dumb manager characters and made them look better. He was no man of principle, you see.
Adams was always a little weird. He just masked it better until his divorce. I knew he was a crackpot in 2007 with his "Fossils are Bullshit" article.
Oh, I know, I first had a bit of a whiff of him being weird when I read The Dilbert Principle. Otherwise a fairly amusing book, but the chapter on female coworkers was... uh, to put it in modern parlance, fedoraèd. This was supposed to be a funny book. Wasn't laughing.
Adams made Dilbert pretty insufferable and (right wing) political in his later years.
Scott Adams was an asshole and a lunatic long before Trumpism made it mainstream.
Well damn, I totally missed that Scott Adams died!
Its late but I still feel like something celebratory is deserved... Maybe a bowl of ice cream with a birthday candle? Yeah I'm gonna go with that.
Why is Mickey surprised? Walt Disney was incredibly racist.
Anyone got a link to that dumbo scene with the crows? Or the tarbaby thing?
Song of the south, there was plenty.
There's a Kingdom Hearts level we're never getting.
God let's hope not, I'd have said that about Winnie the Pooh Blood and Honey too.
There's also that bit that comes out of nowhere in the middle of 'Everybody wants to be a Cat'. Which is really a damn shame, because that song is honestly kind of a banger otherwise.
That movie was one of my absolute favorites as a kid and I still maintain that O'Malley is the best Disney 'prince' but that part was certainly a choice.
Wait, what bit? I still have that song occasionally come on the 'disney playlist.' Admittedly, the only thing I can remember is a 'square with a horn,' but you'd think I would notice something racist in the middle.
I honestly would not be surprised if the version on the soundtrack has it removed, but in the actual movie there's an Asian caracature cat (big buck teeth and all) that plays chopsticks with literal chopsticks whilst singing something to the effect of "egg fu Yung, fortune cookie always wrong"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXqd5d-zHMQ
This one?
There's a scholarly discussion about racism in the comments if you're into that sort of thing.
He also invented a vegan burrito called the Dilberito that was somewhat questionable
"As for Adams, he left the world of food behind, considering the Dilberito a failure, a lesson to be learned. Adams would later describe the nutritional value of the burrito as such: 'Three bites of the Dilberito made you fart so hard your intestines formed a tail.'"
Aww you’re just talking about Scott Adams.
Don’t tease me.
stopped clock moment, goku is based off a character from chinese mythology. still bad to call him what john mulaney rightly described as "the laziest slur ever" though. anyway fuck dilbert and his stupid dead dad




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