It's worse when you realize the bill isn't about the woman, but her doctor.

It's only pro life as long as the child is being carried.

Once the kids out, they don't give a fuck about the woman or her child. They could both die, and they'd have no issue with it.

"Pro quantity" vs "pro quality".

"Pro Rape" imo.

By similar logic, couldn't one kill the legislators who passed this bill? They are clearly inviting violence upon pregnant women, so it should theoretically be legal to kill them in defense of those women if this bill passes.

you'd be legally right but the cops will still squeal up in their full military gear and shoot you all the same. Although to be fair they were probably going to do that anyway.

You can shoot someone who is threatening the life of another person anyway.

Look, if they thought things through they wouldn’t be Republicans.

I mean Republicans are stupid and all but I think they're intending for this to be a deterrent. It's a stupid and cruel deterrent, but it's probably not meant to somehow kill the woman without killing the baby.

Not if you're using deadly force against a doctor willing to perform an abortion, which is the more likely intent of the law.

Or the driver taking her somewhere. Or the person who called the driver.

And so on.

Depends on what you think the true purpose of a law like this would be.

Shhhh, logic is not allowed here.

There is no purpose besides cruelty. Whatever the shittiest interpretaion is, that's what the republicans are gonna want to go with.

I think its more about legalizing shooting doctors. What a healthy country we live in.

It's a law legalizing the murder of Planned Parenthood staff and Democrats who want to overturn the law.

Shhhhhh logic isn't allowed in this bill

That shows just how much they genuinely care for the life of the fetus. If the woman wants/needs to abort then it's wrong. But if the woman wants/needs to abort then both lives are now forfeit

The purpose of their anti-abortion policies has always been to control women. They're finally comfortable dropping the pretext of caring about babies.

Only if she's trying to get an abortion

Only if you leave her brain dead. You kill the baby as well and it's first degree murder

It's basically an excuse to shoot any woman, anytime, so long as you can conceive of a way to claim that you thought she was seeking an abortion. It would be a prosecutorial nightmare, at best, and open season on women at worst.

No, because that will terminate the pregnancy too. But since people are stupid, that's how they will read it (as the upvotes prove).

It's about shooting the doctor performing it and arresting women wanting it.

They've never made a secret out of it. Anyone who doesn't see that lives in denial.

the law is a tool wielded against the working class by the ruling class, it will never protect you from them

to defeat fascism, you must organize. running away and random acts of violence accomplish nothing.

it is coming for you, wherever you run to.

join the IWW and get involved in local activist groups

it’s hard to see why any sane woman would want to remain in that state

Plenty of people don't want to stay in a place they are oppressed, but the thing about being oppressed is that it often also makes it hard to leave that place.

Bills like these get passed quietly and in darkness. I agree with your sentiment, but it's on us to build the uproar that prevents it from making it any further.

Removing the remnants of a miscarriage is also coded as an abortion. So theres still plenty of hate in this bill as well.

Hopefully they won't pass a law requiring shotgun weddings in the case of pregnancy.

It's a different and more complicated kind of hate. I find it useful to split bigotry into bigotry to dominate and bigotry to exterminate. American racism towards black people is the former, while American racism towards indigenous people is the latter.

Misogyny is almost always about domination, but it's a unique kind because they can't switch to extermination or even bluff it. They can't hide women away to exist quietly in the background. They're fully dependent on women to reproduce, and for most misogynistic men, for sexual pleasure. Many of them resent that they're dependent on those they see as inferior for such things and that they can be leveraged.

So yeah, this is hate, just a hate that they can deny because they don't want to think that they hate women, just women's independence.

How'd the USA get to be a nation in the first place?

Lots of ifs/ands/ors/ and buts. Varies by state and generally only under legally defined self defense situations with some judicial discrepancy, mind you it varies by state and some regions are so loose with it that you can just get murdered by going on someone's property. Which may make sense if you live in the middle of fucking nowhere and give warnings and are a thirty minute drive from another person but there have been cases where shit like that happens in suburbs,.

Uuhh... Yeah? Second amendment.

I swear to god they’re trying to legislate a civil war.

Yes. Thats what they want. They want a mass uprising that they can use to suspend rule of law, elections, etc, so trump can become el' presidente' for life and commence to doing whatever the republicans want to do, free from oversight of law, courts, etc.

I suddenly want to play Tropico.

I think its also them seeing vigilantism as a way to get around constitutional requirements like due process and the 8th amendment. This is the kind of law people created by people who see the constitution as an obstacle.

It is somewhat comforting that they still see the constitution as a barrier to the hellscape they envision for society.

This bill will not pass, because it is insane, but it may succeed in its intent: looting the pockets of the people of NC.

how many times have we said "It wont happen, it cant happen, its too insane" in the past 10 years? only for it to very much happen?

Have you met the voters of North Carolina?

The Only Moral Abortion Is My Abortion

This is 26 years old and still worth your time if you've never read it.

If I were to summarize how this fits into long term republican vision of society it would be the following.

"Abortion, like healthcare, home ownership, and free speech is a thing we should reserve solely to for the wealthy and anybody making less than 2 million a year should not have access to any of these things"

has always been acceptable by Republicans Americans

Fixed that for you