Seems like the real story here is one guy maintaining a critical infrastructure begging for volunteers to help out and nobody steps up. So yeah, I really donβt like what he does. And also the OSS community is failing him.
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For those who've never heard of him, Andrew Tridgell is not just some kid cosplaying as a programmer, he's an open source legend. Apart from rsync he created Samba. Oh, and apparently he annoyed Linus Torvalds into inventing git lmao
Sure, it looks like he's made a blunder or two but let's not dogpile on him please. This is Fuck AI, not Fuck People.
Doing absolutely nothing would be better than the current travesty.
Don't coddle him either. He should feel shame and embarrassment. Otherwise he'll keep on with this crap until he starts losing push privileges
Losing push privileges?
He's the author of rsync. He decides who has push privileges.
jfc that's literally abuser language wtf is wrong with you
You're enabling a behavior that hurts everyone including Andrew. Mistakes like this should be embarrassing. Or in the words of zoidberg. Your AI code is bad and you should feel bad
to me it feels like this guy has burnt out, and is in desperate need of new contributors.. quite sad
I know, this is about AI, but can we stop for a minute and rage about the fact that fucking open source projects use a fucking spyware as a service that collects massive amounts of user data?
Sounds like they've now become completely dependent on AI to make the simplest, smallest changes. π¬
Yeah, even when he has a huge staff of himself to do everything.
π€·ββοΈ I'm the sole developer at my project at work and I don't use AI. π Especially not for editing a markdown file. I know how to paste links and phrase sentences and I don't intend to dull that skill by using AI.
Is your project a international standard for syncing and backing up files to remote sites and subject to much public scrutiny?
I dont see how the scale is relevant to updating .md files
Nobody every got hurt by reading a (non-executable) text file
Whoosh. The guy is the sole maintainer. He has no help. His name is Andrew Tridgell. He is a serious programmer, a legend. He isn't superhuman like the rest of you guys.
AI is only really useful for making the simplest, smallest changes.
Then it isn't useful, change my mind.
I agree with you, but after reading this devβs story, and knowing how much pressure people are under to at least try out these tools, I think we should all give the guy some slack.
Heβs been actively begging for other human contributors, but people only seem to have time to criticize him instead.
What's depressing is that the number of people trolling him today is probably higher than the total number of people who actually contributed something (even just a bug report) in 30 years.
There's no upside for him, even if he retires they'll probably continue harassing him.
I can definitely empathize with not having enough time to do things. No ifs, ands, or buts there. It's rough finding time, especially if it's volunteer work.
change my mind
No thanks
While that is definitely a risk one Claude commit in what might have been a larger MR doesn't really tell you much.
It could have been a single item in a long list the agent just put it in its own commit.
Wait, you guys are complaining about the commit comment?
Yes, one way ai attempts to help is by automating commits and merge requests. Thats the least of our worries
doesn't really tell you much
Yep, hence the "sounds like". Can't know for sure, obviously. But such trivial things shouldn't be hard to do "manually". Just paste a link and write some text.
No - you can fork and continue the development. Itβs open source - you dont depend on shit. Except stepping up and chipping in, it does take that
Gallons of water and who knows how much power to add a discord link on a text document?
Even more egregious waste of resources than most uses of the hallucination machines.
Guess itβs time to seek out rsync alternatives
I wonder when they will add layers of abstraction. Using one AI model to tell another AI model what to do.
My sweet child.. that's exactly what the 'agentic' shit is about, llms spinning up more instances and going back and forth between them... and that's why you read those stories about the monthly bills shooting up like crazy
Half the devs using AI have handed their critical thought over to it, so they're already basically an AI model telling another AI model what to do.
Yes, they've been doing this for a while: https://openai.com/index/building-self-improving-tax-agents-with-codex/
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