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Zionism must be held accountable (lemmy.world)
submitted 5 months ago by to c/latestagecapitalism@lemmy.world
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https://genocide.live/

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[+] 62 points 5 months ago (11 children)
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  • [–] 18 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    It’s hosted by a software company (look at the direct link) so it’ll probably be deleted by them.

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  • [+] -11 points 5 months ago (7 children)
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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    there is no arab terrorism, it's a ziofascist lie to demonize legitimate resistance against these monsters.
    fuck off with your hasbara.

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  • [+] -6 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    How you explain philipino immigrants killed during October 7?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    The genociders don't care about their slave workers and left them to be killed by diaper forces helicopters probably.
    Like those scum don't let Palestinians in bomb shelters.
    Anyway they shouldn't have been there.

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  • [–] -4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Oh, so their fault, i see

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    [–] 65 points 5 months ago* (9 children)

    I kinda want to mirror this to the fediverse with a bot to 1. Make more people see it and 2. Mirror it so when it gets taken down its distributed on here.

    Should I do it? Or is that dumb?

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah, I'm real torn. On one hand, I immediately want to scrape this site, but I also don't want to beat the site up tying up their bandwidth. There seems to be a parent site db4p.org thats managing mirrors of this site, but I don't see any sort of torrent or archive. If there's something like that, I'd be very inclined to just archive the entire site/database.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago*

    Mmm… such a bot could run once every 24 hours either “visiting the site” and reading the HTML contents. Or using the DB directly if they have an API somewhere.

    Either way it doesn’t cost them much.

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  • [+] 2 points 5 months ago (3 children)
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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (2 children)

    I was thinking indeed scraping (or using an API), and when a new entry is made, repost it on here (on a seperate community).

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    [–] 26 points 5 months ago

    https://chuffed.org/project/178826-help-databases-for-palestine-protect-our-evidence-archives

    They're asking for donations for storage space if you can help

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    [–] 19 points 5 months ago* (3 children)

    So long, Mom

    I'm off to drop the bomb

    So don't wait up for me

    But while you swelter

    Down there in your shelter

    You can see me

    On your TV

    While we're attacking frontally

    Watch Brinkally and Huntally

    Describing contrapuntally

    The cities we have lost

    No need for you to miss a minute

    Of the agonizing holocaust

    • Tom Lehrer, "So long, Mom"
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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Whoa cool, the only Tom Lehrer song I've heard of before is "Poisoning Pigeons in the Park," I didn't know he wrote political songs too.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Ooooooh you're in for a treat then! Just a few years ago in 2022 he released all his songs from copyright and you can check out every song on his website! (Or any YouTube video of course)

    I suggest 'Who's Next?' for your next listen

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    • [–] 17 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Israel: TAKE THAT DOWN ANTISEMITES!!!

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    PALESTINIANS ARE SEMITES TOO

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    • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    How do they decide which words to write in all caps?

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    • [–] 9 points 5 months ago

    How long until it gets taken down via DOS, hacking, threats, or some bullshit "official" reason?

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    [–] 8 points 5 months ago

    So... I think the website as it is described here would be extremely important to have. One caveat I have is, are we sure this is safe and also, real?

    I'm sorry, it's just that, Israel is known for all kinds of fuckery, and it's good to be careful when clicking links you know. And I'm no expert so I couldn't tell if it is some dangerous psyop shit.

    If there are no concerns I'd be delighted, just being cautious I guess. Anyway, Free Palestine, from the River to the Sea and Free Lebanon.

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    [–] [S, M] 72 points 5 months ago (34 children)

    Normally I wouldnt do some thing like this but those opposed to holding them accountable should be called out too

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  • [–] 31 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Can't believe that I'm defending downvoters. But downvoting does not always mean that they disagree with the message of a post. Some even just use it as a "mark as read" button, some fat fingered, some might think it doesn't belong in this community.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I habitually downvote anything referring to the site formerly known as twitter, especially if it's a pointless screenshot. Glad I read a bit further into this one if that is your attitude.

    Why is the screenshot even nessecary? Does somebody think that posting on X is somehow more legitimate than anywhere else?

    I also downvote about 10 posts a day entirely by accident because the downvote button on my screen is about 4 pixels and rests in the natural scroll area.

    My point is that a downvote probably doesn't always mean what you think it does.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    How did u get that list?

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  • [–] [S] 17 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    Since the list has grown

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (4 children)

    Duplicate. Doesnt look like your update took

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    One more name at the bottom

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  • [+] -20 points 5 months ago* (13 children)

    Votes are technically public, so technically there’s nothing wrong with this, but doxxing voters still feels slimey.

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  • [–] [S] 34 points 5 months ago (10 children)

    Doxxing implies I provided personally identifying info like home addresses, work locations, telephone numbers, other social media accounts, etc.

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  • [+] -10 points 5 months ago* (9 children)

    You know what I meant. Encouraging brigading, to be more precise.

    Lemmy keeps that info hidden by default for a reason.

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  • [–] 18 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Perhaps zionists should be brigaded.

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  • [–] -2 points 5 months ago*

    Even then, I think it’s a bad precedent. It makes Lemmy feel toxic.

    I don’t think votes should be private (as that leads to all sorts of complications, especially with fighting bots/spammers), but I think Lemmy/Piefed should encourage a culture of not highlighting it, unless it’s strictly for a spammer or some other objective rules violation.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    So you don't know brigading is either?

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  • [–] -4 points 5 months ago*

    Lemmy hides it by default. They hide it for a reason, whatever you want to define that reason as.

    It feels icky to work around by posting the list of downvotes.

    I’ll debate over that, but I’m not going to beat around the bush or start a snarky semantics argument over a linguistic error I made.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Well, that's an important distinction

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Yeah. I made a linguistic error.

    Point is, it feels icky, which is why it’s hidden by default.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    The likely chilling effects are obvious to me. Who’d want to (intentionally or accidentally) tap a button on this site when someone’s gonna post your username for it?

    Punishment for using default features is concerning for a platform. If we needed thought police they’d probably make downvotes more visible to us.

    We can already keep bad content in its place by downvoting it ourselves. We can use logs to investigate brigaging and stalking-to-downvote and suspicious mass upvoting, etc. We owe other users restraint if we want them to come back.

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    • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    How did u get that.

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    [+] -12 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    It's a nice thought.

    But ideologies cannot be eradicated and they can't be universally punished.

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    [–] 23 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    This is not accountability - this is just documentation and recording. Which, to be clear, is extremely important - but let's not fool ourselves that this qualifies as accountability in any way whatsoever.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    This is not accountability

    It's accounting, which is the first part of not just the word, but also the process of accountability

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  • [–] -5 points 5 months ago

    So which of these descriptions are you applying to Israel's genocidal activities when you use the term "accountability"?

    1. Israel should disclose how much money they spent on their genocide?

    2. Israel should have a proper system to record how much they spent on their genocide?

    3. Israel should properly "relay" and "justify" their actions?

    Do any of these actually mean anything to anyone anywhere?

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Uh, I think you misspeller 'antisemitic terrorism'. Recording the words and actions of active genocides is so antisemitic. Literally worse than blowing up a hospital.

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    • [–] 8 points 5 months ago

    https://databasesforpalestine.org/

    This is more like the parent project.

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    [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    Please share https://genocide.live/

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    [–] -4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    looks inside

    Estonia

    Pikachu face

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