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[–] 161 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (11 children)

In other news, the prisoners at Abu Ghraib were torturing themselves, the guards had nothing to do with it.

Does anyone really think ice isn’t torturing these people to death?

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  • [–] 50 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    You forget. America doesn't even see it's own citizens as humans to be valued. What do you think they think about none Americans. Its obvious to the world that America and everything it actually stands for is only providing for those with excess.

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  • [–] 33 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    There are no American citizens, just American consumers and the American workforce.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Most of them aren’t American, one of them is South African.

    Some are though, but they don’t really participate in America.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    If Germany did send Trump's grandfather over here to infiltrate America and destroy it within. They were wildly successful.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Wouldn’t that plan have had to began in like the late 1800s? His father was born in the Bronx in 1905. Are you insinuating this started with Otto von Bismarck!?!

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  • [–] 74 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Ah... "suicide"... yes...

    doubt

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Do you doubt that suicides are on the rise? I don't at all and I'd argue that's even worse than death from abuse or negligence.

    I know we're comparing the lesser or two evils here but people choosing to take their own lives really stresses the direness of detention to me. They might get sent to another country. They may never get released. They are so hopeless, they'd rather die.

    The culprit is the same so I'm not shifting blame. I just completely believe that people are killing themselves. If I was in their situation, I might, too.

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  • [–] 23 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    Do you doubt that suicides are on the rise?

    Nope. For reference, however, U.S. military personnel and defense contractors attempted to claim Abu Ghraib prisoners' injuries were 'self inflicted'. As in the prisoners were torturing themselves.

    I sincerely doubt these "suicides" are being truthfully represented.

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  • [–] 72 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    AP has the wrong word in apostrophes on this headline. It should read: ICE detainees are dying by 'suicide' at an alarming rate.

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  • [–] 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

    Agreed, except in the US we (edit: usually) use quotation marks for that, unless the whole thing is already in quotation marks.

    ICE detainees are dying by "suicide" at an alarming rate.

    I'm aware many other places use apostrophes, but ICE is a US peacecrime.

    Tangential question, how many fingers do people use for "finger quotes" ('finger quotes') where you live?

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago* (2 children)

    Two, on just one hand. We're too lazy to lift both hands to quote someone, so the other hand stays firmly planted in the pocket (speaking on behalf of millions of Norwegians, of course).

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    My understanding is that quotes are used to relay what someone said verbatim, and apostrophes are used to emphasize words, to quote them informally, or to express sarcasm. Even here in the US. But this differences have become fuzzy over time.

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  • [–] 21 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    ICE detainees are dying by suicide at an 'alarming' rate, an AP investigation finds

    Ummm...

    ICE detainees are dying by "suicide" at an 'alarming' rate, an AP investigation finds

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Wait, the ICE that’s filled with white supremacists are allowing detainees to commit suicide? I’m shocked. Now I suppose you’ll tell me that a vast majority of those that died are POC/minorities.

    /s

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Americans don’t give a shit

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago*

    I actually believe this. You've seen the footage of the prisons, the treatment. Knowing I'd be used to make my imprisoners more money, with shit food, torture, and no hope for release I'd go out in the most costly manner I could muster.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Don't look at the comments under the actual article page unless you feel like being pissed off.

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    “Suicide”

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago*

    Why is alarming in quotes?

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