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[–] 90 points 5 months ago

If you Make Amazon PAY Fines then HOW will they Trickle down Their Layoffs! Hiring! Wealth?

-REALLY Smart Republicans!

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  • [–] 33 points 5 months ago

    Good. Fuck amazon. Fine them harder.

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  • [–] 24 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Every single freight company does this. Every single one.

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  • [–] 49 points 5 months ago (10 children)

    i honestly thought amazon went electric everywhere but good for him

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago* (8 children)

    They have A LOT of them but really only ~20% of their fleet. Hopefully this will encourage them to accelerate that transition. There's also "Amazon Flex" which hires contractors like Uber.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

    Amazon made 80 billion in operational income (after all expenses, pre-tax) in 2025, this is 0.001% of that. It's like fining a person making $31k a year $3.10.

    Any fines that go towards the people are good fines for a company like Amazon, but it's not enough

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (3 children)

    I think you may have replied to the wrong person.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I think it's to suggest that this fine won't do anything to motivate Amazon to go full electric.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I doubt that Amazon is slow rolling it. Demand for EV trucks is insane. I was working on procuring some in a different industry a couple years ago, and we just could not get them in any meaningful quantity. Lead times were years out. I think we actually got one during the time I was on the project.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Good. We could easily decrease our fuel usage by a double-digit percentage just by minimizing all the idle time of vehicles whether it be police, construction workers, delivery drivers, or just soccer moms or people sitting in their car in a parking lot.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Wtf is with all the people just sitting in their cars staring at their phones with the engine running

    There's someone virtually everywhere I go. I don't think it used to be this common...

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I walk laps around the parking lot during my lunch time at work and soooooo many people go out to their car and sit there with the engine running. For no fucking reason. Like if it's too hot or cold, don't go to your car. They do it when it's nice out too. Insanity. Crack a window if you need a breeze or something. So dumb

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Great: Amazon has been using EVs for their delivery vans near me, maybe this will push their adoption in more places!

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    The Daily Show did a report about it and idling fees are reported by citizens which then get % of the fine. Are some people about the get nice payouts?

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  • [+] -24 points 5 months ago (16 children)

    Meanwhile the mayor of my city removed all the free parking downtown. Now the entire oldtown area is struggling to keep afloat because no one here can afford to hang out in an expensive boutique shop or hipster bar and pay for parking while they do it.

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  • [–] 53 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Removing parking to improve accessibility for bicycles, transit, and pedestrians - great.

    Just putting up parking fees everywhere - not great.

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  • [–] 22 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Just putting up parking fees everywhere - not great.

    Honestly, this can be good too. I've seen many places where parking is "free" and the end result is that there isn't any parking available other than expensive private lots. The city is robbing itself then: It's diverting the revenue from parking into private hands, which also encourages private parking lots which are an urban blight, and making it less convenient and affordable for business customers while a handful of people squat on the free parking all-day every-day.

    Everybody would be happier if the street had affordably-priced meters. Everybody except for the people who are using that street-side parking all-day every-day, but those people are basically poaching very limited and valuable land from the municipality.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    Good perspective. If there’s parking space, it’s costing money to maintain. Perhaps not a lot on a monthly basis, but the cost should be recovered.

    Local business owners probably don’t want to pay the likely thousands of dollars in taxes that would be needed to support the parking in front of their business.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    I like the approach that a city close to me took. Street parking and small lots are kinda expensive and very monitored (red/green/blue lights indicate status of the spots from a distance so police can quickly fine cars)

    However there are a few parking garages that are not so expensive and also include 2 or 3 hours free, but you have to walk a little to get to downtown ( about half a mile)

    Lots of people that hate walking pay a lot for parking and fines and the rest of us walk a little and get free or very cheap parking

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    I’d agree that making a structural change to remove vehicle parking and install bicycle/public transportation infrastructure sounds great.

    But I read the comment above yours as saying that the mayor simply made existing free parking into paid parking. Not sure that’s doing much other than reducing the business activity in the area.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago

    As a New Yorker, you’re using public transportation. What are you even talking about? Plus the parking was taken up by commercial or abused by long term/andandoned and public always used the paid garages. Ask me as a transplant of how I difficulty figured all this out…

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    That sounds like a great improvement.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I’m not so sure. If it’s done to encourage public transportation and biking, and the money generated by parking funds increased non-car infrastructure like bike lanes etc, then sure.

    But just slapping parking meters on formerly free parking and the money simply going into the city’s general fund (which is what I’m sure is happening here) I wouldn’t call it an improvement.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Parking on the street inside a busy city is a luxury. Why should it be cheaper than parking on a parking lot let alone free?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Because Wichita is not a busy city and they also tolled the free parking lots they built a decade back. If you want to go to the cultural heart or file a document at the courthouse you better be prepared to walk two miles or pay for parking.

    I get that free parking is a novelty everywhere else, though I compare that to wondering why anyone would want automated tax returns when you can just pay for turbo tax, but Wichita is new to that and of all the options to pad the revenue stream the mayor picked the one that takes it out of the citizens and small businesses.

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