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[–] 72 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Just wait until the DNC tanks her like they did Bernie.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I mean, in theory, there's nothing stopping someone from running for president from inside a jail cell. Front porch campaigns are a thing.

    Luigi will be 35 on May 6, 2033. Which means the first election he could run in will be 2036. So, yeah better hope he gets off the death penalty at least. I doubt they would let him drag his appeals out that long.

    But, let's say he gets life instead. He could conceivably run for president in 2036. He could in theory run a front porch campaign for president from a jail cell. And precedent has been established that if he were elected, he would essentially be exempt from the enforcement of criminal judgments against him. (This was established even well before Trump came around.) So he could walk right out of that cell.

    Alternatively, if you want him out the fastest, the most realistic, but though still long-shot option would be for some progressive firebrands to run for the presidency and governorships of New York and Pennsylvania, promising as one of their platform planks to deliver him a full pardon.

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  • [–] 133 points 5 months ago* (4 children)

    This lady got me drunk on margaritas in between classes when I was a student at Parsons. We talked about Bernie Sanders and politics and she was cool as hell.

    I will definitely vote for her if she runs for president.

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  • [–] 25 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I wish I drank those margaritas that AOC cooked up

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  • [–] 21 points 5 months ago

    It was, like, a year or two later when she ran for office, and I was like… I know her… But then it took me a little while to put two and two together and remember where I knew her from. It blew my goddamn mind, lol.

    Unfortunately, I didn’t live in her constituency, so I couldn’t vote for her at the time. But I did live in Hakeem Jeffries constituency, so I voted for him.

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  • [–] 38 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I WAS going to Vote for AOC because she Represents America instead of Israel until all I saw Day Old Accounts telling me Newsom was Better! NEXT time AOC NEXT Time!

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  • [–] 29 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    I would vote for AOC in a heartbeat. I am tired of old men ruining the country, and tired of Israel making us their errand boy.

    As far as "experience", when did that really matter? Obama didn't have much foreign policy experience either and he was 1000x better than this current troglodyte pedophile.

    To me the whole foreign policy angle is a non-sequitur. Unless an candidate has been a senator/congressman for several terms, it doesn't really apply. And how many presidents were that? Some of the best presidents had zilch in foreign policy experience and weren't an elected official for much before they became president.

    Obama (one half-finished term as senator). Clinton (Arkansas AG and gov...hardly a place that had any need of foreign policy). Bush Jr (gov of Texas). Reagan (gov of Cali).

    Not to imply all were great, but they definitely had, at least from our current perspective, a rational viewpoint where they thought from their POV that they were doing the right thing for the country, instead of this chaotic, narcissistic, demagogue, corrupt stupidity.

    At this point a gerbil with schizophrenia would be a better option than Trump.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    At this point a gerbil with schizophrenia would be a better option than Trump.

    Same was true the last two times highly qualified women lost to Trumpism.

    Trump MAY not be on the next ballot, but Trumpism will be.

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  • [–] 30 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (12 children)

    She’s the only federal level Democrat with any sort of broad public support.

    No one else is note worthy or generally liked.

    She is literally the only option. Anyone else is risking mass voter apathy and a voter turn out flop in an election that should be a slam dunk.

    If you’re going to vote in the dem primaries, don’t fucking vote based on who “is most electable”, vote for who you want to win. Choosing the candidate that “is the most electable” keeps losing elections, because that crown keeps getting chosen by corporate owned media who just anoint that tittle to the most corporate friendly candidate, and voters don’t like corporate friendly candidates.

    The most electable candidate is one who excites people, no one else even considered for running excites anyone except for corporate lobbyists.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    I like her, but I also think Mark Kelly would be a strong candidate. Former military. Retired Astronaut. Wife survived an attempted political assassination. He stood up to the Trump administration who tried to charge him with crimes punishable by execution and waved it off.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    It seems to me that Kelly is a centrist who stands for nothing in particular. Why have you decided to support him? Sure being a navy pilot and a member of Nasa is cool, but we dont need cool, we need a dem who will take a stand on the issues for once. Issue support is what we need to win, not some cult of personality.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    Barley anyone knows his name or anything about him. If the candidate doesn't throw down the gauntlet with the GOP and trump, show they can fight this shit, they will lose. Trying to convince ppl in a few months that that's Kelly isn't going to work. AOC is in the trenches fighting visibly, every day, and has Bernie's backing, bigger name recognition, aligned with mamdani whose showing what's possible with the next generation of dems, and is probably the best candidate with momentum to build around. I don't know if even that's enough though tbh.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    He would be a strong candidate… if he had a larger public profile with the average voter.

    I like him, but the average voter doesn’t know about him. He doesn’t even rank in battle ground polling.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    If OP didn't follow up his name with his CV I wouldn't have remembered who it was...

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    I know who he is because I’m a space nerd and follow congressional politics closely, and I like him, but I also know that most voters don’t pay attention to congressional politics, nor remember the kind of news stories he’s showed up in.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    They'll ice her out and close ranks against her the way they did for biden against Bernie.

    And they'll lose again.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    This sentiment is not actually mutually exclusive. If AOC will get iced out and the corporate candidate is guaranteed to win anyway, then there's no harm in voting for her during the primaries

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  • [–] 20 points 5 months ago

    America isn't ready for competent leadership

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  • [–] 22 points 5 months ago (8 children)

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is young and lacks experience, especially in foreign policy. But that may be exactly the kind of person we need as president: someone relatively untainted by both the DNC and the GOP, and someone who has not spent decades being shaped by corporate lobbying and the protection of profit margins.

    We need leadership that is still capable of idealism, somebody willing to push for the kind of social programs this country increasingly needs if we want to reverse the direction things are heading right now.

    AOC absolutely could be elected. A 2028 presidential run is not some impossible fantasy. The deciding factor is simple: younger voters would actually need to show up and vote in meaningful numbers.

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  • [–] 20 points 5 months ago

    Young? I’d take young over dementia riddled. Besides, this country desperately needs fresh leadership and engagement from people who are younger.

    If Emanuel Macron became French President at 39, I’m sure there’s no issue with AOC being 38 by 2028.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (3 children)

    lacks experience, especially in foreign policy

    I honestly don't think there's a single real person that cares about this in the slightest. The only people I see unironically bringing up this argument are old people who preffer fascists over anyone younger than them.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    O... kay...

    So there are other countries on this planet aside from America. In fact, there’s an entire department of the U.S. government, headed by the person fourth in line for the presidency, whose sole purpose is handling foreign policy and relations with other nations.

    Foreign policy is arguably the single most important qualification a president can have.

    I’m 40 years old, and I’ve been saying this since I was a teenager because I’m not short-sighted enough to think the world ends at America’s borders.

    And moreover, I literally said in my original comment that we may need somebody inexperienced like AOC at this point. Did you somehow miss that part?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I'm not American and my comment wasn't meant to be negative towards you. This is an argument quite often brought up in my home country, usually by the group of people I mentioned. This is also because, similarly to the USA, pretty much all of the 'experienced' politicians are just horrible.

    So all I was saying is that, in my opinion, when you take all of this into account, this qualification becomes worthless. Because you can either have a qualified fascist or an unqualified maybe-somewhat-good guy or gal.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Right okay.

    I hear what you're saying.

    And I'm still saying that it's probably the most important qualification the president can have.

    I guess I'm just not connecting what I'm saying in correlation to what you're saying... 🤷

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