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[–] 116 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Bezos is right. Double of nothing is... nothing.

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  • [–] 39 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I'm pretty sure that he said that with that very thought in mind. Like a thinly veiled fuck you to the non-Epstein class.

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  • [–] 60 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    doubles his taxes

    Bezos continues to pay $0 in taxes

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  • Was going to say this, he's technically right because he pays so little in taxes to begin with. I am honestly more of a believer in a flat tax for the rich now than progressive tax structure. But they'd find some way to weasel out of it so there's only one solution to them.

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  • [–] 58 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    Sounds like we should nationalize Amazon. That's what he's saying, right?

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    We really could just do that. He and others would fight like hell, but why couldn't it be done? It needs to be done.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    I agree. The entire economy should be nationalized. Except instead of rich capitalists running the state, we should make sure it’s regular working class people, and we should make sure that the profits go to the people who actually created it, like you and me and every other working person.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    It should be sold to the public as free market competition.

    "We are taking over Amazon because government is inefficient and wasteful. This will allow American small business ingenuity to crush the government Amazon and replace it with a free market alternative."

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  • [–] 60 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Double? These assholes really don't know how close they are to being lynched in their own mansions

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  • [+] 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    American government/police couldn't even stop the MAGA idiots from storming the damn Capitol Building. I doubt any hired goons would seriously be willing to put themselves between billionaires and a pissed off mob.

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  • [–] 29 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Time to post a classic: https://hmijail.github.io/1-pixel-wealth/

    It's a few years old, so probably need to double these numbers. At least, Wikipedia says that Bezos' net worth is now $284 billion.

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  • [–] 24 points 5 months ago

    You could take 90% of his wealth and he’d still have more than 99.999% of the rest of the country.

    He didn’t earn that money. He’s just a squatter making money on everyone else’s work. Stfu you whiner, Bezos.

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  • [–] 23 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    "I promise you" is billionaire speak for "fuck you and fuck your family"

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    The guy with all the money says that other people getting some of the money wouldn't help them.

    And in the US a huge number of people just nod along because our culture tells us that net worth = human worth = intelligence = trustworthiness.

    There's no continuing the thought, like if the money won't help struggling teachers then why is it so important that it stay with the person who already has ten thousand times the amount of money that would make a teacher rich and set for life?

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    Have you heard the song 'If I were a rich man' from Fiddler on the roof? One of the lyrics was that if he was a rich man people would flock to him ask him questions that 'would cross a Rabbi's eyes' meaning they would be complicated. And he says that it would not matter if he was wrong or right since being rich alone is what gives you credibility.

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago

    Bezos is right. 2 x 0 = 0

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago

    Said without irony as he sits in front of his personal vanity rocket. How many teachers could we pay a decent wage with that thing Jeff? What would we lose? Sending Katy Perry and her flower to space?

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago

    Yeah, Bezos pays almost nothing in income tax compared to his wealth.

    Double of almost nothing is still almost nothing. So I guess he's technically right, which is usually the best type of right...but.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I promise you that when we eat him Bezos will be delicious.

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    [–] 9 points 5 months ago

    "I promise you, it wouldn't work. Actually, it'd make everything worse. So just trust me and don't try it. It's for your own good. I know what I'm talking about. You know I'd never lie, right? So no matter what happens, don't try it. Okay?"

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago

    I mean he is probably technically correct. But let's tax them a lot not double of the pittance they pay.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago

    I'd be open to try it though, for science..

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago

    You could kill Epstein and it's not gonna make a difference I promise

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago*

    Well he's right. 0 x2 = 0 ...

    Seems i was very late to joke. I'll see myself out.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    Well let's do it and find out!

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    No one's talking about just double. Orders of magnitude.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    "Okay. Will do."

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I have a great idea, we'll take all his billions, and set them on fire. No tax! And all of a sudden, inflation goes the other way for a day

    Edit: spelling

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    this is one of my things. you get these arguments about how well the government may spend the money but even if great wealth was taxed and burnt like you say it would have massive good effects on the economy. Its wealth disparity that is the problem.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    Your promises ain't worth shit.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    Mayor of my heart

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    "Trust me, bro."

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    Let's try it and see, you may have conflicting goals

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    Interesting stratagy of trying to get lower taxes for the angry little people to distract from you own under contributions bazos. I don't think it's worked but it was worth a shot I guess.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    He can promise that it won't help because the people he's paid to put in power will refuse to act on it.

    Shit, we could make life better for a lot of people if we just distributed the federal revenue we have now differently, but that requires not bowing down to the agendas of billionaire donors.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    So then he apparently doesn't even know what taxes even are, or why they're collected.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    Why dont we just take it all then it'll get put to use

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    Education is paid for by property taxes. So increasing income tax revenue will not help teacher salaries unless the funding mechanism is changed.

    Specifically, new taxes on businesses and billionaires need to be specifically earmarked for education, otherwise that money just goes to the pentagons bloated budget. Basically from one pocket to the other. Billionaires don’t want to pay for massive wars, they want to profit from arms sales and the military industrial complex.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    Pinata economics this guy already

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    Hmmm.. ok, but what if we kill you and give that teacher in Queens 5 million of your dollars?

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    He's saying that because he understands the government is corrupt and those tax dollars would end up in the pockets of Trump and his sycophants, and funneled into the military-industrial complex in support of this months' endless war du joure, right? Right?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    taxes for lower salary workers is to high becuase we do not collect enough on wealth. At this point to much wealth does not come from work but if we taxed all income regardless of source then it should be 0% until about 100k and then 5% until 200k and 10% until 400k and 15% until 700k and 20% until 1 mil and 25% until 2mil and 30% until 10mil and 35% until 20mil and 40% until 40 mil and 45% until 100mil and 50% for everything over that. Its so rediculous what we don't tax at all and when we do tax the highest has been hovering around 30% since we started having growing debt again. Then to boot the highest rate stars in the very lowest end of the six figures and never goes up more. its crazy.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (5 children)

    We should honestly just have a $10 million wealth cap. Enough money that you would never have to work again, and could afford a kick-ass lifestyle for the rest of your life. Every cent above that gets invested in the community, instead of wasting money on mega yachts or whatever.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (4 children)

    Im more concerned about money so that the worst off can have a decent enough life than stopping wealth. I want the tax to also make it so you have to be that much more competent to be wealthy and to naturally control the size of peoples fortunes and corporate sizes. I believe if the tax is high enough we should not have to take much action against monopolies. So essentially I feel we have so many idiot rich people now because its waaayyyy to easy to make money once you have money. If your loosing half in the process of profit it will require a modicum of brains. 50% is high enough to me to meet these goals. If it was the only form of tax it could go higher but Im assume we still have other taxes that will make effective taxes more like 2/3rds. What you suggest would have to have no inflation or flexibility in an economy which is just not the case. I don't care if there are billinaires if the poorest are millionaires. One problem with the billionaires now is that most people are currently thousandaires.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (3 children)

    In my eyes, the problem is that succeeding in capitalism has almost nothing to do with brains, and almost everything to do with luck and ruthlessness. Workers are the ones who produce value, so any profits that a business owner is able to extract from a business is value that is stolen from the worker. The most successful capitalists are the ones who are most willing to exploit other people. If it becomes impossible to become exceedingly wealthy, then we remove the profit motive on exploitation, and everyone is better off.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    ok yeah so I don't think you really want to limit to 10 mil as get rid of capitalism. I do see it as being a way of having to do things but needs to be well regulated. Its the unregulated nature that allows for cheating to be the way over actually producing. In my opinion anyway.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah, I do want to get rid of capitalism, but realistically, setting wealth caps could be a way of getting there without bloody revolution. Similar to how China is using capitalism to industrialize and build socialism instead of just nationalizing everything and expecting an undeveloped populace to gracefully hold power. The Cultural Revolution proved that you can't change people overnight, it's a generational process. By having wealth caps and investing surplus value into communities, you can change worldviews by changing material conditions.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Yeah so im not. I do think its a necessary part of human interaction and you can't have trade and buying and selling without recognizing it. and yes I have had the many people who are like oh you can still have currency and people can choose what they like but when it comes down to many things that don't matter that much the point system is kinda needed for who has the house in that particular spot or that particular way. I like a balance. I want many things socialized or nationalized. Honestly anything that is a necessity or a network which limits any real competition. So healthcare, education, utilities, and such along with basic income and such.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    That's because you're paying way less than half of what you should. Shall we start with 10% of everything over a billion of your net worth per year?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago*

    They always say crap like, "Believe me!"

    Don't.

    Bernie Sanders' current proposal to tax America's nearly 1000 billionaires 5% of net worth per year would bring in $4.4 Trillion (with a T) per year.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago*

    What he actually means is that you could TRY to double the taxes he pays.

    He will spend so much more ensuring he pays fewer taxes and you'll never get him to pay. He promises you.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    At this point it could cost us money to do and it would be worth it to decrease the resources with which billionaires could fuck everything up.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Let's not believe the promise and make it anyway. Not double, a thousand times. For a start.

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