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[–] 55 points 5 months ago

Still, fuck HP.

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  • [–] 45 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    ik HP has a Linux laptop and all but this company is definitely the last company I thought would do smt like this

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  • [–] 19 points 5 months ago

    high-usage vendors like hp (and dell, lenovo previously reported on) have to start paying-in to support the operating costs of the service.

    they certainly aren't doing it because they want to.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Think about it. Right now, windows is a fucking hog of an OS. It takes up huge space, gas huge overhead, and needs huge amounts of ram. Ram and storage are expensive as hell right now.

    Linux can run well on a laptop on decade old tech (One of my old laptops is literally from 2016 and runs Linux mint butter smooth).

    So by promoting Linux, HP can sell a laptop with less ram and less storage, that doesn't run like shit. Saves them loads of money. They may not give a flying fuck about Linux. This still helps their bottom line.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    me too but i don't think its a good idea to to trust their good gesture yet; their product lines are still hella closed and not allow for much customization. even in the rare instances they allow to they impose arbitrary limitation and/or require their software

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  • [–] 98 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (21 children)

    FYI HP (and Dell, but not Lenovo) are priority targets on the BDS list. Please do not support them even if they support Linux.

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  • [–] 46 points 5 months ago (13 children)

    What's the "BDS" list? Never heard of it.

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  • [–] 19 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    .... Why... or how, would McDonald's support Israel and the IDF?

    I mean, that seems such an easy target to avoid and just go "I'm staying out of this one" for any company, but McDonald's? That just has to be for the sport

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  • [–] 26 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    they give away free food to the idf.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I hate when I already don't buy from any of these companies, so I can't really join the boycott for this. At least some of them I am boycotting for other reasons, not just because they make a shit product. Intell, for example, I'll buy from AMD every time first.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    Damn I just looked that up and WIX is on the list. WTF, WIX? Damnit

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    They're an Israeli company so they're included by default. I think they just get their own entry as they a decently large organisation.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Oh wow I did not realize that's where they are from. Really too bad because they make quality filters. That's okay I will buy a different brand regardless

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  • [–] 21 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Whenever HP supports something, I'm left with the thought of 'cui bono' .

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    They've still got a pretty hefty server division and increasingly not using HP/UX, no?

    Self preservation seems like a fairly obvious motivator

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  • [–] 21 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Thats pretty great of HP tbh, still fuck them im never buying another HP laptop after my last one suffered from a case of HP (Hinge Problems)

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Soon subscription is coming up for fwupd

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    [–] 30 points 5 months ago

    Great news for the foundation, still sorry HP but you have burned me regarding your printers

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    They aren't doing this out of Altruism, mind you. They know damn well that the world runs on Linux admins, and they want the ecosystem to survive so they can use it as a customer base later.

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  • [–] 19 points 5 months ago* (13 children)

    lol, $100k+... HP revenue in 2024 was $53,559,000k.

    Dell same year $88,000,000k and Lenovo $69,000,000k, so ~$50B to $90B

    I let you calculate the percentage but... I'd guesstimate it's approximately nothing.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (12 children)

    Revenue is not operational profit

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago* (11 children)

    Right... which... is why I wrote revenue and not operational profit? Was I unclear? What should I have shared instead? Please feel free to clarify directly with whatever you believe would be better and why, we can all learn.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Revenue says basically nothing in this kind of context. HP's earnings before taxes was 3 279m so 100k is well nothing.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago* (3 children)

    earnings before taxes was 3 279m so 100k is well nothing.

    Genuinely confused now, are you saying "your nothing" is different from "my nothing"?

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I was really consufed by your chain of comments.

    You stated revenue, which doesn’t say anything about profit. Then you argue that that is true and say that is why you posted revenue.

    Which is why I posted the profit or HP of 2024

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    What is this condescending tone, is this what they call redditor energy

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

    Were you not condescending? Don't you believe you started this?

    You could have said :

    • Revenue is not precise enough, operational profit would be a better metric
    • Operational profit is more representative of the situation and for HP it's [insert value]

    or basically anything that prompts a discussion by kindly clarifying.

    Instead you basically said "Apples are not oranges" and now you are saying replies are toxic.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    Greats news more support for Linux, Two weeks ago I bought a Lenovo IdeaPad 2in1 and while I was on their website checking the warranty, I decided to see if there were BIOS drivers and there were. I tried using fwupd and it didn't find anything and when I searched found that this model does not have Linux support and I couldn't simply use the terminal, it was only possible from Windows, I had to download the .exe and Hiren's to update the firmware.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    Let's go! I want more of this! Better hardware/firmware support is always appreciated.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    Can someone ELI5? Is this extremely token gesture an appreciative nod or strings (visible or not) attached trojan horse?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Linux desktop marketshare is going up, though it's definitely not huge. Windows 11 is not particularly popular, and very resource-heavy in a time where those same resources are exploding in price. I'd imagine that hardware companies want to hedge their bets a bit and supporting Linux is this manner is pretty safe.

    It's worth noting that HP is also one of the bigger hardware vendors and a lot of servers run Linux, so again firmware updates are probably a good thing you support.

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