cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/46974718

So this retro handheld review might have been my favorite so far. I have such an obsession with design language (be it gaming or all the way to architecture), and seeing something as unique and different as this rotating touch screen on a retro handheld? It won me over without a second's hesitation

This handheld is a nicely squished cube with rounded corners, has a touch screen, obviously flips up to be a gaming handheld you can (comfortably) play PlayStation/PSP and even some few GameCube/PS2 games. Although you'd have to be crazy to buy this for GCN/PS2. They're just a happy bonus (really, this is NOT a PS2 machine)

Playing music or streaming music is a blast, as are audiobooks. I've had the most fun playing GBA and PS games on here, but if you're interested in my review, you can check it out here:

https://gardinerbryant.com/hands-on-with-the-anbernic-rg-rotate/

Or, you can just ask me what you'd like to know if you'd prefer to not! I love this damn thing. If I could wear it on a belt loop, I promise you I would be doing that like it is the olden days of phones!

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[–] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I would have liked hearing about how it works in use - I get that you like it because it's different, but I don't know how that fact that it flips makes it different in use.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Hi there! Sorry, I'm the author of the article (just noticed this was cross-posted), so I can address this!

    I guess the fact it rotates out isn't going to be earth shattering, if you're looking for that being the one reason it is worth owning (a rotating mechanism for the display), you wouldn't get it. But to me being able to use it for things like listening to music (on-device, offline music, or streaming), watching an older anime episode, an audiobook, or scrolling through Mastodon while it is in the cube format, then being able to flip it open to play some GBA just makes it unique.

    I have it sitting on my desk or shelf as I work, propped up facing me to stream music. Then I can pick it right up after I'm done and go back to FFVII on there.

    I just like how this handheld 'feels'. Smooth rounded corners and edges, and with a super satisfying weight to it. And I don't think that 'feel' ever gets enough coverage for retro handhelds.

    Sorry, maybe I'm struggling to convey how nice it is to use with words here!

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    [–] 39 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (8 children)

    Yeah, Retro Game Corps has a great, in-depth video on this if anyone is interested. Good quality, good controls, good screen, good gimmick.

    The dealbreaker for me is the legendarily awful combination of shitty, delayed bluetooth, a back-facing speaker, and no headphone jack. The most reasonable way to actually hear your games is by adding an awkward and easily losable dongle, which is not acceptable imo, especially because then you have no way to charge while you play.

    Other than the unforgivable audio choices here, it looks like a really great and sleek little device.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Who releases a product with busted AF bluetooth these days?! Hard pass until that, at least, is corrected. 🥹

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    It's unfortunately still pretty common among discount handheld manufacturers trying to save a few cents. They can still advertise it with Bluetooth, so unless people actually watch a review that criticizes it, they are still likely to buy it none the wiser.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    So Bluetooth headphones are a no-go?

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  • [–] 26 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    A GameBoy Advance SP is still worthy of being a daily carry. Rock solid hardware with a huge library of timeless games.

    That this thing is effectively the exact same dimensions using current tech makes it the first dedicated handheld I’ve considered getting since the DS Lite.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    If you're looking for something akin to the GBA-SP but modern, check out the Anbernic RG34XX-SP.

    It looks almost the same as the GBA-SP, but with better everything and can emulate other systems. Same aspect ratio too which makes it perfect for GBA emulation, and it comes in fun colors.

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago

    Very strange this doesn’t have a 3.5mm jack. That’s one of the main reasons I daily carry a handheld (psp) these days. It’s as valuable to me as a mp3 player as it is a gaming device.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

    I would love to have one as a Pico-8 playing device !

    A bummer that it doesn't have a jack, the speaker is on the back and there is a sharp thing over the shoulder button. Also, delayed bluetooth...

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    I saw one reviewer was annoyed by a shoulder button feel. But I have tried my hardest and I haven't been able to feel that sharp point/edge. I do have smaller hands, so that could be a factor as I play (where it might be a issue with larger hands)

    I checked in with other reviewers, and I didn't find anyone else who found that an annoying issue! But as with everything on retro handhelds, YMMV!

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  • [–] [S] 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

    "Or, you can just ask me what you’d like to know if you’d prefer to not! I love this damn thing. If I could wear it on a belt loop, I promise you I would be doing that like it is the olden days of phones!"

    ...just a heads-up, it is night here in Aus and I'm off to sleep. But, if there are any questions, I'll reply in the morning! Damn timezone differences -____-

    (bonus Gunsmith Cats picture, for the other 4 people alive who know what this is!)

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    Oh, you can text on your sidekick?

    Cute. :: pulls out rotate and starts furiously going through games, finally succumbing to option paralysis, and boots up Stardew::

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    Am I missing something, or did you not include a photo of it fully open? A gif of it opening/closing would also be neat to see the mechanism. What a weird device.

    Edit: Ope, found photos of it open in the linked thingy. I'd still love a gif/video, it looks kinda like the LG Wing to me, and that thing is so satisfying to fiddle with.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 5 months ago

    You're 100% right! I mean to some time today, record a lil video of me sweeping it open then convert it to a GIF. I've just got a few things to get through first! Someone else reminded me I forgot to do that, which is...concerning since it is the BIG point on this handheld!

    For now, check Anbernic's own video on YT, it was a short one which shows the rotation well:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYdxn8lDhQc

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    I love the form factor. It looks like a perfect little device to carry in my handbag.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Is that slot on the back a speaker? Is that the only speaker?

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Yes, and yes. Plus, the bluetooth has a really bad delay, and there's no headphone jack.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 5 months ago

    The case is really nice, and there's a screen protector to put on there, but I will be VERY interested in seeing everyone's Rotate after 6 months or so!

    I'm that weirdo who kinda loves wear and tear on metal devices though. It shows they've been well loved!

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    Usually I am a little hesitant to recommend things to people, but not this one. It is really, really fun. I have so enjoyed using it, and the fact it has a nice presence on my desk for things like music, podcasts, old anime? As well as gaming? Truly enjoyable!

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

    I can't make the "sign up" drop down thing go away when on your site (linked in your post). There's no "x" to close it. It just covers the top of the page while I scroll.

    That's a bit aggressive, and made me not want to read your article. Love your passion though :)

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    Very evocative of the 2010 Motorola Flipout I still have in a drawer. Looks very fun.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    This looks neat. But I already have an Analogue Pocket which seems to do everything this does, and a little bit more, except for being the same size when closed.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I do love the Analogue Pocket's philosophy and design, but:

    Analogue Pocket which seems to do everything this does, and a little bit more

    The Rotate runs Android. Which is a bonus to some, and a caveat to others. But it is infinitely more powerful as a retro handheld than the AP! The 'Pocket can't run systems from the 32-bit era or later, while this can emulate a whole lot (with varying degrees of success)

    I just think wanted to address "...everything this does, and a little bit more..." for anyone coming across this in the future!

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    The Rotate runs Android. Which is a bonus to some, and a caveat to others.

    Yeah, I'd rather have a Linux handheld, rather than an android one that will be abandoned as soon as it is sold, but then again, if it's ARM then it needs a custom kernel which will be abandoned as well, so I'll just avoid this whole kind of device completely.

    It's cool tho.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Neat, but.. i feel kind of weird asking this: What is the point of rotating a square display?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Underneath I'm assuming is the hand help controls. Like flipping open an GameBoy Advance SP or a DS/3DS. But instead of flipping it open like a clam shell the screen is rotated open

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    It's such a cool and unique device but it's hard to be interested in it with all its downsides.

    • No headphone jack
    • Terrible back-firing speaker (almost guaranteed to be muffled by your hand)
    • 2000mAh battery only

    Maybe if they ever make a version 2 I might pick it up, but for now I'll probably stick with my RG35XX-H for a looooong time.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)
    • The headphone jack is totally valid for some. I'd not used a 3.5mm plug-in pair for sooooo many years (actually I bought my first pair of IEMs a few weeks ago for my new music journey, so there's that!), so bluetooth is just my default go-to these days. But for some who prefer wired this will 100% be a let down, or a deciding factor

    • The back-firing speaker is fine when you hold and play it. Not once have I covered it with my hands or fingers! The only time it is a factor that drove me nuts was when I'd lay it down on a surface, face-up. That is when it gets muffled

    • The battery is perfectly fine! 5-6 hours with pushing it on higher systems, and maybe 6-7 with basic GB? And it charges SO quick. I can't see anyone going out during the day and spending more than 6 hours gaming. But maybe that is just my take on it

    The best part is that you know exactly what you love, and what works for you. Lots of people make fun of how often devices get released, but the best part of that is that there really is a device for everyone!

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    That perspective makes it look like a TV, lol

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    It's a cute device. My only concern is, how durable is the screen? Does it use Gorilla display like on smartphones, so it can handle scratches and a fall from small height in example? I think a clamshell design would have been better, but then you cannot use the display without opening it up. On the other side, for all those tasks you would use without opening it up, I would probably prefer my phone. I'm probably a more practical guy. This definitely need some extra protection layer.

    I don't want to sound too negative here, as I just focus one aspect while watching the images and videos. The form factor is pretty cool and I'm glad Anbernic is experimenting with many designs. So this is not a complaint reply here.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 5 months ago

    It definitely isn't Corning who are covering the top of this one. It just 'feels' the same as my phone screens, but I'm not actually sure what the surface is! Someone else asked me to check, so I've asked my friend at Anbernic (will update here if I remember!). All I can say for sure now is that it has the exact same feel as all my phones do.

    I'm like you though, in that I'll be very interested in how this looks after say 6 months of use. It does come with a screen protector, and the soft case it has will protect it in transit.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 5 months ago

    I don't play that game, but someone on Discord asked me to try the Android version for them. The only issue I found was the UI was a bit squished in the intro set-up screen:

    After that it is just fine! All the pinch to zoom gestures and so on work well.

    Though to be fair I'm not sure what is normal and right, as I don't play it!

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    Okay, that does look fun.
    I don't know a lot about modern tech but I suppose that the usb port might support headphones, at least I have a phone that does so when I tried it exactly once.
    I'll keep this thing in mind for sure.
    I didn't know I wanted PS2 emulation until I saw here that it is a thing that exists effortlessly enough these days so I might look into that more first... but I also didn't know that I might want a something fun like this one in particular.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 5 months ago

    As for PS2 emulation, there are SO many devices which run it. These days the systems which are pushing the envelope on the retro handhelds are things like:

    • PC gaming (Steam, GOG, Epic and so on) which is 100% super doable and impressive on Android.
    • PS3 which is just really starting out, not fantastic but the games which do play, do so great.
    • Switch! Super, super, super impressive on handhelds. Eden is the one emulator doing the hard work these days in my eyes. There's also Ryubing (made by one of the original Ryujinx devs), but Eden is my pick.
    • Wii U (a rather immature emulator, just getting started on Android).

    It is a deep, deep world out there, with varying costs. But if you're looking for PS2 games, upscaled and on the go in a tiny handheld? There is so many to choose from now!

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    How will the upcoming android changes affect this? Most of the emulators would be sideloaded right?

    Would love this but worried it'll become obsolete / locked out of updates once google does it's stupid shit

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    looks amazing and decently prized: https://anbernic.com/products/rg-rotate

    but that one line makes it a neverbuy item for me:

    AI: One-click game guide retrieval, real-time translation, intelligent dialogue, text-to-image generation, image processing, and more features.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (3 children)

    Why a square screen? What games support that?

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    Wasn't the Gameboy screen pretty square? OP also mentions PS games.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 5 months ago

    GB, GBC, GBA (different aspect but they look great regardless, PlayStation, WonderSwan, Genesis, SNES

    I don't know, there's a ton of 3:2-ish consoles which just look beautiful on here, people can get pedantic and state that none are true dead square, but they all suit this so well!

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child)

    Its a review. My honest review. I'm not paid to write on my friend's site, nor do we run a single ad on there. Anbernic don't have any say in what I write, and if I gave up my reputation as a writer for a device this cheap, I'd be an idiot.

    I love the device, but if I loathed it I'd still share it here. I post all of my articles here.

    Check my post history, if you still think I'm some deep cover ad agent then you can have my account, I can't even be bothered with these insinuation today.

    One little edit:

    I spent a solid 18 months covering Steam Deck news. I did so with a weekly news post (elsewhere, then actually here on Lemmy after I'd given it up for a long time), I'd cover what was happening, befriended devs to share their news and what was coming up, and built up a nice little community around that.

    From there I started to interview these developers, because no one did so before I did. That sounds a bit tickets-on-myself-y, but it is just true. I wanted the developers of projects like Heroic, Lutris, EmuDeck, Decky Loader, Junk Store and RetroDECK to be able to share their side of things, since most of the time people tend to forget who is behind the project or program they know, use and love. Some of my articles and interviews were posted on big sites, some on smaller sites, a couple on Gaming on Linux and SDHQ and so on.

    From there I made friends with Gardiner Bryant, who is now one of my closest friends. I share on his site exclusively now, because I LOVE gaming. I'm not paid for my articles (nor do I want to be), I just write because I love to. After picking up retro handhelds for awhile, some of those companies got in touch with me, asking if I'd like to review their devices. I said yes, but that I'd do so in accordance with our ethics standards we have on the site

    If you think I'd risk all of that (literally years of writing content just on social media, then on sites, now with my friend Gardiner) for one little handheld? You'd be wrong. I just hate how this kind of shit gets thrown out as an offhand comment, it is so dirty and insulting.

    No, this isn't an ad.

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  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago

    Listen, pal, your beef shouldn't be with folks like me questioning if your "rave review" stippled with flowery adverbs is an ad. If you're just some dude writing, then you're just some dude writing.

    Your beef should be with marketers and advertisers who for the past decade+ have dishonestly inserted their scumbag bullshit ads into social media threads pretending to be just another excited commenter/content contributor leaving rave reviews with flowery adverbs. Go be pissed at them.

    Glad you like your Anbernic. I have an RG556 and two other lesser Anbernic devices. The lesser ones both stopped turning on after about a year -- for no good reason. The RG556 still works 16 months after I got it. It's fine at what it's intended to do, but sucks as a Steam Link device.

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  • [+] -9 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Ridiculous design, gimme foldable like the GBA SP (a design that actually protects the screen) or a non-foldable PSP form-factor, but that gadget shit is pathetic and does nothing a phone can't already do. Stop being pigeons, stop giving gaming a bad name. Think, gamer, think.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 5 months ago

    gimme foldable

    No, I wouldn't give you a thing. Ever.

    stop giving gaming a bad name

    I really don't understand what happened to society. Because you don't like the design of a handheld you think I'm giving gaming a bad name? Fuck right off.

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