Can't you just disable sleep on close? Fuckin noobs

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[–] 246 points 5 months ago (27 children)

It's easy to lose track of time with these tools, he told Business Insider. Soon enough, the girls' practice has ended, and the parents flood into the changing room. He joins them — with his laptop ajar, so that the AI agent can keep running.

"I have to put it up on a shelf," he said. "I'm untying my girls' skates while looking back like: Is it done?"

I just feel bad for these poor kids. You can't leave your goddamn Claude at home while you take your kids to the rink?

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  • [–] 70 points 5 months ago (15 children)

    When your boss ranks you based on the number of tokens you burn, there's no choice.

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  • [–] 55 points 5 months ago (8 children)

    Ohoho, I know exactly how to burn a silly amount of tokens if I want to, which is why that metric is absolutely garbage - arguably worse than ranking developer performance by SLOC committed.

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  • [–] 33 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    If your metric is usage, it is incredibly easy to game, just send agents on wild goose chases all day long and never accept the results.

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  • [–] 25 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Part of the scoring at my company is how many generated lines of code you accept.

    Going back to the beginning of the year, I think I’m up to 6

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Have it write all of your logging code for you, it may be inaccurate but it is the least damaging place to take the hit as you can just manually search in the source code for where the print was from. They always do something stupid and non uniform making most statements traceable indirectly.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)
  • If you fully inform them on the situation, they will be cool with it. We are all in this shit together, well until everything falls apart. Add a [] to the prefix on each statement, who the fuck cares. It was the LLM that did it, not you and you were forced to use it.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    /model opus

    write a script that RO dumps my production datastores 1gb at a time

    use this script and review all my production data and look for cost savings.

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  • [–] 22 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    He's a product head at an AI company, as per the article. He is a boss.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    While I agree, Every boss, has a boss. Even the CEO's have bosses.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago* (5 children)

    or you can literally just do what is it? something+tab? and it just goes to town without the need for you to confirm anything.

    I mean it's gonna turn out slop that won't scale and be full of exploits anyways regardless if you auto confirm or not. then just rig it up to ping your phone when it's done...oh who am I kidding these dudes wouldn't know how to do that.

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  • [–] 29 points 5 months ago* (4 children)

    then just rig it up to ping your phone when it’s done…oh who am I kidding these dudes wouldn’t know how to do that.

    Fucking. Exactly. I just made a long comment about how this article feels like they're talking to non-tech-savvy people who are pretending to be tech-savvy because they talk to a fucking AI.

    Like this dumbfuck kid who "has to keep shipping software" as if that means he's not shipping it riddled with bugs and security issues since his AI makes the spaghetti code and he just says "I'm sure this is ready for production."

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  • [–] 19 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    I used to use a push notification app and a small python script for that.

    I would “&& notify_me ‘message’ “ and get a notification on my watch when whatever script I was running completed

    I judge this wave of people in tech pretty harshly.

    Just a bunch of boring script kiddies

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago

    I couldn't even find any evidence in the article or photos that anyone interviewed was running a local LLM, which would at least justify worrying about temps if your keyboard acts as your air intake (which apparently is relatively common now).

    Just a bunch of narcissists wanting an excuse to have people ask them about what they're doing, ogle what they're doing, and so they can pretend they're...

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I mean this is why I don't mind using AI, it gives me the time to focus on the people around me.

    Also I see it as a sign of a lack of support and isolation in the workplace. Like "I need help, I don't have anyone to turn to cause everyone is fired so this is my only support" and the anxiety that brings.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I’ve been suffering from too short an attention span. I keep ending up. scrolling on my phone while waiting for ai to spew its slop, and have been caught too many times

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    Yeah I just swap to the next project. And if all of those are hydrated I go to my hobby projects, and yeah those I don't use agents for so I just stay there for a while after that lmao

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  • [–] 47 points 5 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 38 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    "Can’t you just disable sleep on close? " You really think they have technical competence for such?

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  • [–] 30 points 5 months ago*

    The 39-year-old head of product at Raven.AI is a [Claude Code and OpenAI Codex power user. He also has two daughters, ages 12 and 10, who love to ice skate. So, when he takes them to their weekly skating practices, he sits outside the rink and codes with AI.

    It's easy to lose track of time with these tools, he told Business Insider. Soon enough, the girls' practice has ended, and the parents flood into the changing room. He joins them — with his laptop ajar, so that the AI agent can keep running.

    Sure pal, your work is more important than your kids!

    USA makes the world more difficult by pushing people to work more hours and more hours and even more hours, that is turning to a normal thing, which affects the rest of the world bad. Yesterday was AI pushed all over the world, today is war going worldwide. God belss USA and it's capitalist heads!

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  • [–] 111 points 5 months ago (30 children)

    People who can't figure out their power settings are shipping software. We're so fucked.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (13 children)

    I mean... I'm almost glad they haven't figured out the power settings. Imagine if they were all running around with the lids closed and the laptops stuffed into a backpack? It would be a fire waiting to happen.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    You're saying it like it's a bad thing.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    "Fires on airplanes" is, in general, a BAD THING.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    Surely the CPU would force an instant shutdown if it detected dangerously high temperatures?

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    I was thinking more about the batteries. It's probably not as big of a deal with such small batteries, but lithium ion batts can enter an "uncontrollable, self-heating state" called thermal runaway. https://ul.org/research-updates/what-is-thermal-runaway/

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Yes, but our gear should have sensors that know when thermal transfer is sustainably going to impact the batteries.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    They do, but It's sort of like what happens when you take a hot steak off the pan. The extrernal heat source is removed, but the steak has enough internal heat to continue cooking for a bit while it rests. Your laptop might shut down, but the whole thing being in a backpack would act as an insulator and allow it to continue heating.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    yes you are right and everyone else is a little uneducated for thinking this could actually be a fire risk

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    You sound fun at parties. Circular firing squad, much?

    Fwiw, several generations of Windows notebooks have suffered from nasty sleep bugs where they wake themselves up from sleep, and drain their batteries while clamshelled in a book bag. Used to happen with my work Dells almost monthly. Microsoft's announced win11 fix for it is one of the loudest and most venerated I've heard, in living memory.

    Best I ever got out of the deal was a spicy pillow, no breach, and I've been unable to find any articles about any rash of laptop explosions which would have had very high visibility.

    It sounds like you have also been as lucky as I have. May we all hope to escape the fires, a little longer.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago*

    kek. okay tell that to all the electric vehicle owners who've burned to death in random car fires cause by their batteries igniting themselves. also maybe educate yourself a little and read the underwriters lab article I posted.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Considering that they are using pseudo intelligence* write the code I think the power settings is the least of our concerns.

    *PI should replace AI as it is a more accurate title

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    I just translate AI to Anti-Intelligence. 😎

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    It's fucking surreal watching these people rise to high positions in tech companies trying to sell the idea that they can replace physicians with their "product". Have fun with that mate.

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  • [–] 27 points 5 months ago (10 children)

    What really worries me about this article is this very dystopian idea that you're supposed to be "working" 24/7, no breaks ever.
    Even when you're out with your kids, why are you present in the moment instead of working? Open your laptop, go work.

    Wasn't all the marketing abour the "AI Future" talking about getting things done faster?
    When did that turn into "Work 24/7 so you don't waste your hourly token limit"? WTF?

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  • [–] 29 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Also,

    The 15-year-old from Bentonville, Arkansas, is a 10th grader who's building a startup with his 24-year-old cousin. He uses Codex, Claude Code, and OpenCode (paid for with seed money from his parents).

    Lul. Lmao. ROFL even.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 5 months ago

    Yesterday on my way home there was a lemonade stand, 6 boys making great value lemonade for $2 a glass. Two of the kids were turning poorly made signs it was so wholesome if I had $2 on me I'd of stopped just to support them.

    Sometimes kids should just start a business instead of a startup. Less disappointment and brainrot

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    I can't remember the specifics of it, but I vaugely remember someone pointing out that back in the 70s people assumed that rising productivity meant they'd have to work less. That if the work of a week in 1970 would be the work of three days in 2020, that they'd simply only work those three days. Even if I'm misremembering what was said, I feel like it's clear to see that rising productivity doesn't mean we're going to work any less. Capitalism will just keep squeezing until nothing is left.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    Yeah futurists said the same shit about email and smartphones, etc. These were “time saving” productivity tools that would help us all enjoy a better work-life balance. Instead you end up with workers essentially on call 24x7x365.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    That was the Jetson's storyline: George goes to work 3 days a week, 2 hours a day, to sit at a desk and press one button.

    Notice that storyline didn't get repeated much.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Also made enough for a nice floating house, a flying car, and a robot maid.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    And still has to deal with rush hour traffic...

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    Remote work still isnt fully accepted even in the future.

    My pet theory is that the jetsons and the Flintstones are in universe, on the same planet, in the same time period. One lives in the clouds, the other on the ground. Where do you think all the raw materials come from? Dinosaur operated quarries

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Yeah everyone on the ground making due with bioengineered animals that look like dinosaurs, and no one can afford shoes but it's ok because everyone has been bioengineered to run really fast and have impervious feet.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    on top of that, there is no way they are working on anything so important that can’t take an hour away or whatever. these dopes could also configure yolo mode if they just need to sit there and click “accept” to changes…

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  • [–] 26 points 5 months ago

    This shit reads like an Onion article. Good god.

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  • [–] 26 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Figures they don't know how to keep their laptops awake while the lid is closed lmao

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    This is the first setting I changed on every laptop I ever owned. So often I had stuff running in the background and didn't want it to sleep. Plus, windows had that stupid fucking sleep bug, so usually I'd use hibernate anyways.

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  • [–] 24 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    You're giving them too much credit. They're afraid their chatbot will suffocate if they close those lid all the way.

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  • [–] 93 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    Utterly pointless thread. Drivel. Change your power settings so that you can close the screen and have the machine "do nothing".

    Is this the level of content that is deemed worthy these days? Literally a non-story.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    If the heat vents are above the keyboard the heat will go directly on the screen. I had a laptop screen stop working due to this.

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  • My gaming laptop emits a ton of heat in the chassis around the keyboard. Keeping it closed while it's running would likely be a very bad idea.

    If they happen to be running any sort of models that are local to the machine that could be quite haphazard.

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  • [–] 35 points 5 months ago

    dumbass who refuses to learn does dumbass shit that takes seconds to fix. sounds about right.

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Just disable the lid switch in software.

    I've always done this. I dont like it suspending when its closed.

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    This was one of the cringiest articles I have ever read.

    There is no way this happened lmao.

    I lost it at “sorry, I’m using Claude”.

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Actual link to article: https://www.businessinsider.com/coders-keep-laptops-open-in-public-ai-agent-2026-5
    Redirect links are tracking links and should be banned imo.

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