You can do better than chrome with Edge. That way two companies are keeping your data secure instead of just one!
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Obligatory fuck brave. What's wrong with nord exactly?
What's the thing you replaced with NordVPN? Just so I know to avoid it, of course.
Also, I'm not sure if you're doing the same, but I collect all data about myself, including metadata, and mail it directly to the NSA. Just saves them the hassle.
Finally, finally, I can answer something. I recognize the logo.
https://obscura.com/
Is this better than mullvad? I've had nord for a while but finally cancelled and am going to get a new one when my sub expires.
Seems like Obscura uses mullvads exit servers so I would imagine it would be a similar level of anonymity. Can't speak on feature parity though, that will have to come from someone who has used both services.
Doesn't even support Android/iOS, still in its infancy, and the benefits it provides are not really needed unless you're a high-profile individual in which case you should just use Tor + WebTunnel.

I'm on the same boat as you. Have had Nord for 2 years and 10 months, out of which the 10 months has been from me just sharing my link to people that wanted a VPN. I used to like them, then they started pushing bullahit on Android like not allowing me to just refuse notifications. Granted, after a shotload of complaining they finally gave me a link to an apk that did allow me to keep it's notifications off without constantly nagging me to enable them, but that was the last straw. My subscription finally ends on May 13th. I'm on a family plan on Proton, so now I use that. The only benefits of a VPN for my needs are geoblocks and if I ever need to use a public Wifi, and even then, o usually just VPN into my home via wireguard anyway.
Yes, Google Chrome installs AI locally without consent automatically, Brave forces you to use their cloud services.
Can you tell me more about brave and what you mean?
When you launch Brave for the first time, it will push a lot of services like Brave News, Brave AI, their video call platform etc., all cloud services. Technically, they're all open source, but I wouldn't trust them. They have released a separate version, though, which keeps all this things disabled, which is paid on every platform except Linux builds.
Still, Brave is a whole lot better than Chrome, but I wouldn't trust either.
Brave was created by an anti LGBT asshole
Do you know the stance of the Firefox (or other browser) creators on LGBT rights?
Yeah, Firefox fired the anti-lgbtq asshole when his donations came to light. So then he went and founded Brave.
So they fired one anti-LGBT person when he became high-profile (CEO). What about everyone else?
What is it you're looking for us to validate?
The point I'm making, which you don't have to validate, is that boycotting a free product because the CEO is some kind of shithead is pointless. The new CEO of Mozilla is most likely a different kind of shithead, but one who was better at covering their tracks. A bunch of the developers are probably shitheads, because there's a proportion of shitheads everything.
Boycotting those products which were made by shitheads is impossible unless you boycott everything, besides being pointless. Boycotting only those products which were made by confirmed, publicised shitheads is arbitrary and so even more pointless.
It is not pointless.
Using a product gives its creator legitimacy. If that creator is a shithead, you’ve (in part) chosen to give that shithead a pedestal to speak from and have their words heard.
Mozilla get to speak with authority partially because they’ve been in the browser game since nearly its inception and partially because they’ve have a user base. If either of these things were not so, who would care?
If you don’t like what any of the major players are doing, you can grab an open source alternative, switch to a different browser engine and upset the metrics.
You decry people being arbitrary for drawing a line, but yourself are doing so from the other direction. Your refusal to take a position leaves you in an arbitrary place.
Life is too complex and nuanced to search for a hard line in everything. And things are always shifting. You can have morals the compel you, and so long as you make a good-faith effort and are willing to listen when people you disagree with also make good-faith arguments, then you’re doing alright.
Using a product gives its creator legitimacy
I reject that completely, at least as far as their views on unrelated things might be concerned.
It's like saying you should stop using Linux because doing so lends legitimacy to Linus' abusive behaviour (or that it did so, I believe he's more chill these days).
Sure, fine. We can go with that, if you like.
Then my core point still stands; using a service gives the creator/owner of that service a platform to speak from.
Do note that the line between related and unrelated can be quite faint and blurry. How do you decide where it is?
I guess I'll use the browser where I'm not certain anyone at the top is a creep vs the one where I am certain. Not sure what your point it even.
Like I guess I'll just throw my computer in the lake since no matter what I do, a shithead probably had a part in it at sometime or an other. But since that's dumb, I guess I can at least refuse to use things that are done by known shit heads, especially when the company doesn't seem to care that they are.
Not sure what you are trying to get at here. Are you okay with a politician being an out in the open Nazi just because some politicians are probably nazis but hiding it.
Making yourself a slave to the caprices of news and publicity just doesn't seem a sensible way of living your life.
Not sure what you are trying to get at here. Are you okay with a politician being an out in the open Nazi just because some politicians are probably nazis but hiding it.
I figure the politicians who are Nazis but hiding it are gonna be making statements that would disqualify them in my choice of candidate anyway.
It's a good comparison though because I'd certainly care more about the beliefs of a political candidate whose beliefs are going to affect their decisions which are going to affect me and mine if they get into power, versus someone who contributes in some way to a piece of free software (such as by being its CEO), whose beliefs might, at worst, make that piece of software worse in which case... I'll not use it, I guess?
Well I hung out with Mitchell Baker and she seemed pretty chill.
Been using LibreWolf browser for a short while now, pretty great if you get rid of some of the more radical features like full data cleansing on each shutdown.
And it's based on Firefox, not Chromium, which is pretty sweet if you ask me
Also Vanadium for my phone, came preinstalled with GrapheneOS and I have no reason to change it, it's really good too
What’s the issue with Signal? I haven’t heard of any actual vulnerabilities from their end, just standard phishing on the user side.
They don't invade your privacy or share data with third parties or even use your data to train AI. Yucky, no thanks
There’s no issue
Unless you're the government, then the issue is just that it works
I find this to be 100% accurate and every one should follow this guide to maximize their security
whats the one above nordvpn?
its obscura, basicly mullvad with a relay for making it impossible to log who you are, if i understand correctly
i also didn't know what it was credit
That's not an aswer though.
That is an answer, maybe not an answer you wanted, but still an answer.
whats wrong w Nordvpn
Way too expensive, the clients are proprietary except for the Linux one, and the amount of sponsorships they do just make them look more suspicious than anything.
How is NordVPN expensive? I had it for almost 3 years and turned out to be about US$2.80 per month for me.
It's a corporation. It is inherently not private. Your government will always be able to get its data. NSA can be presumed to log its activity, whether or not the corporation itself does.
Nothing. It's rumors and hearsay. Probably the only negative is an alleged data breach, but that is not confirmed.
...thanks for replying
Whats the rumours and hearsay?
Some people claiming they log data, but they're mixing it up with other VPN services that actually have been caught logging data. Some people have a problem with their refund policy, but they're trying to get one after like 6 months or something stupid like that... come on.
Stupid little things.

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