Most noteworthy for me is the fact that more Americans think that porn (52%) and homosexuality (39%) are wrong than spanking children (23%) and being ultra wealthy (18%).

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https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2026/03/19/what-do-americans-consider-immoral/

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[–] 101 points 6 months ago (18 children)

75% of Americans think hitting children is chill???

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  • [–] 40 points 6 months ago

    A ton of cultures do, unfortunately. That said, it's also just bad parenting because (1) kids model behavior, so they will "punish" other kids physically and (2) punishment is one of the least effective forms of power, often producing public compliance but not private acceptance.

    Just an fyi in case you need that in you back pocket when someone tries to argue in favor of hitting kids.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    I was visiting the head office of a California-based company that I worked for, and my colleagues (mostly left-leaning) were moaning about a proposal to make it illegal to hit children. After 15 minutes I couldn't keep my mouth shut and said, "I think a society should protect those least able to protect themselves." There was a lot of backpedaling, but also a few people explaining how it was totally necessary that they hit their children for reasons.

    I didn't have children at the time, but my step-daughter (now 20) and son (now 17) were never punished with violence, so it is possible for sure.

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  • [–] -4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I can sort of understand the logic, even if I disagree with it:

    If a child does something that could potentially have lethal consequences, a verbal warning might not be enough for them to understand the severity of what they did.

    That is, of course, the only reasonable situation I can think of in which spanking is acceptable.

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago

    Verbal warnings are not less efficient than violent punishment. It's the contrary. If the child understands why they should not do something, they respects the rule more than if they just fears the punishment. And children understand a lot of things, if explained clearly.

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  • [+] -15 points 6 months ago (11 children)

    I've never spanked my children but if you've never thought that spanking a child might be a good idea then you don't have kids. Those little shits don't understand empathy or anything else that you're appealing to when you say violence is never the answer. Being desperate to find a solution to their behavioral problems is totally understandable.

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  • [–] 28 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    I have children and I'd lie if I said that occasionally they make me angry, and sometimes very angry. But I'm the adult, they're not, hitting them will teach them absolutely nothing. You won't teach them empathy showing that you have none for them when you're angry.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    You won't teach them empathy showing that you have none for them when you're angry.

    Worse than that. My parents conditioned me to hurt myself when I make a mistake. They also instilled a permanent sense of guilt. So... I hurt myself a lot. I am getting therapy. I do not see much of a future for myself, my life has never been worth living. Everyone underestimates how bad it is.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    You've successfully described why I don't spank them and articulated that you understand the impulse so... Thanks for agreeing with me in the weirdest way possible I guess

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    If you recognise the urge and haven't followed through, I assume you wouldn't call it "morally acceptable", but it really sounded like you were agreeing with that position originally.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    I think it's understandable that people feel that spanking is fine and it isn't surprising to me at all. I don't feel the same but it's not a shock to see that like the original comment I replied to

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    If that’s what you meant to say, you’re extremely bad at expressing it. After all, you wrote this:

    ... if you've never thought that spanking a child might be a good idea then you don't have kids. Those little shits don't understand empathy or anything else that you're appealing to when you say violence is never the answer.

    That’s exactly the opposite of the comment you were replying to. You’re not saying that parents sometimes get angry, but that they consider violence to be a solution. That’s not the same thing!

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago*

    You mean children can make you mad? Yes, of course. But never ever ever have I thought this, and I would treat anyone with suspicion who does (even if they don't act on it). Lousy parents. Poor children!

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    For the safety of your children, please fucking educate yourself away from this draconic perspective.

    Being desperate is no excuse to abuse children.

    Edit: who is the dumbass that downvoted me for saying not to abuse children? Fix yourself.

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  • [–] 91 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    Ok so a third of people think voluntary assisted dying is wrong but two thirds of people think the death penalty is totally fine.

    The fuck is wrong with people?

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  • [–] 54 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Alternate headline: "Americans objectively bad at morality across the board"

    Bonus headline: "Don't spank it, hit your kids instead"

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    It's the same with death as it is with milk and corpse pleasure. People think consensually drinking your partner's breast milk is wrong, but stealing a cow's breast milk is fine. People think eating an animal's corpse for some family friendly fun is absolutely fine, but having sex with the corpse of your friend who signed a consent waiver before death should be a crime.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Im gonna get back to you when ive processed this.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    People think consensually drinking your partner’s breast milk is wrong

    Wait, they do? Why? What could possibly be wrong with that?

    The idea of a consent waiver for post death sex is... A strange, uncomfortable thought. At the same time, I cannot really see any moral problem with that, per se. It's kind of in the same category of being in a relationship with a sibling with no intention of getting children. Strange, slightly uncomfortable to consider, but hard to see any actual moral problem with it.

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  • [+] 145 points 6 months ago (16 children)
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    I can guarantee you the people who voted these things as being "morally wrong" only believe it's wrong if someone else is doing it

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  • [+] 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)
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    Actually, it's the other way around. Gayness (the sexuality) doesn't cause homophobia. Being homophobic causes you to have a fetish for gay stuff. These homophobic politicians being caught on grindr aren't actually gay, they weren't born gay. The fact that they see sex with men as wrong caused them to want it. They're in it for the taboo.

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    We surveyed 3,605 U.S. adults from March 24 to 30, 2025. Everyone who took part in this survey is a member of the Center’s American Trends Panel (ATP). This report also includes findings from a separate ATP survey of 8,937 U.S. adults conducted from May 5 to 11, 2025.

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  • [+] 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (8 children)
  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    I personally know at least one family who is a Nielsen household. You’re asked to keep your participation confidential which is probably why you don’t know anyone doing it.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I did 3 years of Nielsen surveys before I moved last. I didn't recall secrecy being pushed that hard.

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Can I talk about being in a Nielsen panel or survey?

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    No. Once you begin participating, we ask that you do not share that you’re part of Nielsen research. We ask that you do not discuss your role with people outside of your household, including on social media websites, such as Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. This helps keep our research as independent as possible.

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    My family was a Nielsen family for a while back in the 1990s. Our parents basically only let us watch Sesame Street and a few other PBS shows. One of my friends was sort of alarmed, almost offended by this situation, like of all the people Nielsen should be seeking data from, how could it be us?

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    I'm from a MAGA cult fake hypocrite 'Christian' family like this.

    That I've had to ghost to the point they likely think I am dead, to finally stop their abuse and escape their dysfunction.

    Been trying to explain the level of moral depravity of the average American for around 25 years now... most people acted like I was being hysterical, untill very recently, when we elected basically the AntiChrist, certainly a insurrectionist rapist corrupt traitor conman, twice.

    Beyond 1/3 of the country openly and obviously being duplicitious anti-democracy theocrat bigots... almost everyone else just acted like that was fine, at every level of society, interpersonal to institutional, for my entire life.

    We, as Americans, deserve this.

    Everyone else does not.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Unfortunately, it's a pretty solid methodology (speaking from experience). That said, you must understand that the average person is religious and poorly educated.

    Actually quite a few of these "morals" aren't even uniquely American, except for maybe the billionaire one. You'll probably find an interesting mix of bad takes in most countries, even in well educated European countries. There are 8 billion people on this planet and a ton of them are just terrible.

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  • [+] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    I'm thinking of South American, African, Middle East and some South/South East/Central Asian countries, which is a mix of poverty and/or religious factors (for quite a variety of factors). There are countries where pornography, homosexuality, gambling, etc, are just illegal on religious morality grounds. And don't get me started on la chancla!

    As for Europe, I'm curious. I think it'd be better, on average, but a lot of the same moral roots exist there so who knows. Although I bet Finland is swell; they somehow keep being labeled the happiest county and these things are correlated, lol.

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  • [–] 34 points 6 months ago*

    The US population has some messed up opinions

    When I'm her death, and suffering intolerably, it's immoral for me to check out 2 weeks early? They'd rather see me continue suffering

    A fetus has a genetic abnormality that will ensure the child will suffer for years and then die a horrible death? Sorry, abortion is morally wrong! The baby will have to suffer!

    Come to think of it, most of these fucked up opinions are religion driven. Imaginary Jeebus said it was wrong, so that settles it!

    Can't afford a baby? Doesn't matter, the baby must be born, it would be immoral to abort. Once the baby is born, though, fuck that baby, we don't care, we won't help you raise it you slut, you should have controlled those sinful urges!

    The US is such a fucked up place

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  • [–] 33 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Would be interesting to see a comparison with other countries. Here in Sweden, it's illegal to spank children, and most people are OK with that, AFAIK. Abortion is also not frowned upon in any way. We would have wildly different results on this chart.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    How hard is it to immigrate to Sweden (coming from the US)?

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  • [–] 30 points 6 months ago

    This graph encapsulates precisely why I've always felt disconnected from the culture around me.

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  • [–] 27 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    I realized some years ago that most Americans view "morality" as almost exclusively being about sex. Raising moral concerns about things like having a job where you build missiles to be dropped on schools is likely to be met not so much with disagreement as confusion, about how that could possibly be a moral issue if it's both legal and doesn't involve your genitals.

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  • [–] 26 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    As a dane, this explains a lot with all the weird stuff you hear about the US these days.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    US society is fundamentally broken and has been for a long time.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago* (3 children)

    heavily polarized by troll farm propaganda from fox, right wing grifters and russia. russia sole reason is to provide a division in the us. its no wonder they suddenly appeared on reddit as bots around 2016, when there was barely any mention of significant politics posts, for a while before the pandemic subs were allowing pure right wing articles to be posted(in r/politics(.

    remember conspiracy sub, prior to trump it wasnt filled with so much bs as it is now.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    All of those things only fanned the flames that were already burning in this country since its inception.

    American culture has always been rotten to its core. Just go read any leftist author and their analysis of American society over the last century.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    america has always been right wing country even when it began, i dont expect anything to change, unless america goes to an actual war on thier soils like with the EU(WW1+2). THATS why conservatives from all over the world flock to the states this is thier last refuge.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago*

    We came close to a working class movement at the beginning of the 1900s, but the wars took over priority and, with the loss of momentum, we were quickly pacified by an owning-class that did everything in its power to demonize communism in the minds of the people through things like McCarthyism.

    We absolutely can change this society. We just need to start organizing again like they did in the past, with actual goals and an understanding of theory and praxis instead of these pissant weekend walks begging the system to listen.

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  • [–] 47 points 6 months ago* (9 children)

    It makes sense that in the country were Death Penalty is considered less morally wrong than Viewing Pornography or Homosexuality, most people support (or at least don't care about) Israel mass murdering children for the "crime" of being born Palestinian.

    That moral priority alone says that for most Americans, life is less sacred than what people do with their sexy bits alone or with consenting adults.

    No wonder America keeps making war and killing millions.

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  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Prudism is a blight that rots the fabric of society.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    Prudism by itself whilst bad isn't all that bad.

    No, the Evil part is the Love For Ending The Life Of Other People.

    Prudism alongside this is just hypocrisy - after all, unless one is reading a very, very special Bible, Christ said "Turn the other cheek", not "Hang them by their neck until they're dead".

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    the palestine/gaza conflict has been going on for decades, it dint affect people at the voting polls since the past few elections, even the bush wars wernt even quesitoned that much by the public. likely due to copaganda/military propaganda shows and movies.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Most nuanced take, clearly based upon a deep understanding of American culture and politics. We are all just bad people who love war and genocide. There isn’t one party that gave all the power to check the president away and let him do whatever he wants, and there aren’t protests with millions of people regularly happening because we all love it.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    Last I checked Ds and Rs support Israeli genocide. Or if its too recent for you just rewind and you will find obama droning down whole wedding parties because someone didnt support US hegemony (aka was a "terrorist"). Of course Bush committed war crimes all throughout the Middle East too. Voting Blue harder isn't going to fix your problems

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    Spare me the "American-style simpleton-politics for people who have no clue how real Democracy looks like" bullshit - the last guy which was of the "other side" in your hyper-reductive 2D fake-democracy theater system was sending 2000 lb bombs (which the American Military itself won't use because of their high collateral damage) to Israel to blow up high density neighborhoods of residential apartment buildings with.

    There were no big demonstrations against it.

    Same thing back when Obama was blowing up weddings and killed so many innocents that he changed the definition of "enemy" to be any male between the ages of 14 and 60 so that the numbers didn't look so bad.

    There were no big demonstrations against it either. Hell, plenty of American mindless tribalist followers of that "side" of America's Theatrical "Democracy" still laud Obama as a great man and a great president.

    The reason why there are big demonstrations against the current one is that he's doing in America the shit that the others mainly did or supported abroad, so now people who weren't suffering when Biden's 2000lb bombs were hitting Hospitals in Gaza and Obama's drones were blowing up families attending weddings, are suffering, so its only now that they demonstrate,

    Little brown kids being mass murdered was fine for most Americans as long as they themselves were ok.

    America is a country were "I'm alright Jack" is the most important "Moral" "compass" for most people, possibly one of the worst in that regard.

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  • [–] 22 points 6 months ago (10 children)

    I think I’m heading back toward gambling being morally wrong. I mean, it’s not, but it can be self-destructive, and willingly work with immoral entities - most companies that profit from gambling are exploiting people’s weaknesses to harm them. That’s a whole lot of immoral all over a mildly amusing activity

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago

    Gambling in the micro is not morally wrong. Games between friends with stakes and the like is perfectly fine.

    Running a casino or sportsbook is almost certainly exploiting problem gamblers in a way that is unequivocally morally wrong.

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  • Gambling isnt morally wrong, but running a casino is. Corporations should be banned from any gambling related activity, that way if a couple friends want to play poker or make a small wager on a football game, no laws are broken government doesn't get involved. But at the same time by banning corporations you make it so that there's no casinos no tv ads and more generally no capitalist industry preying on gambling addicts.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    At minimum online gambling should be outlawed. That whole industry seems to make the issue so much worse compared to how it was historically.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    The only thing worse than legal gambling is illegal gambling.

    Addicts are addicts, they can't be helped and must help themselves. We all must learn to control our dopamine receptors, they are batshit crazy.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    I don’t even know if that’s true in the same way that it is for a drug user. Making drugs legal and safe is a good for society. Making gambling legal has made society worse in terms of bankruptcies and financial stress.

    Gambling addicts definitely need support but allowing problem gamblers to be taken advantage of is something that legal gambling does that legal recreational drug use does not

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  • [–] 22 points 6 months ago

    We really are a failed society aren't we?

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  • [–] 22 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Wow people don’t realize how morally wrong it is to have billionaires. I guess we’re surrounded by morons

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  • [–] 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

    I really don't understand how people can reconcile this kind of data with a positive opinion of humanity

    40% of people saying 'spanking children is not a moral issue' is probably the worst datapoint here. At least 4 in 10 people are fully just animals blundering around operating on instinct and following what feels good. And that's not even counting the other people whose idea of morality is just 'what is my visceral reaction' who had a visceral reaction.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    This is why when people talk about AI not really being intelligent, but just glorified word association, I say, is that really any different from the average person?

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