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[+] 246 points 6 months ago (6 children)
  • [–] 56 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Anyone holding out as long as possible, old.reddit.com still worked for me earlier this week on mobile. Ymmv

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  • [–] 34 points 6 months ago

    I think they’re keeping it around as a dirty little secret that either leadership doesn’t acknowledge or they realize it’s the last bastion of their power user base.

    To that end, I hope it sticks around for a while, but if they ever get rid of it, I think the only ones left would be noobs and bots.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    I thrive on the old subdomain, yeah. The new form with variable popup-like post frames depending on how you approached the content is barely even tolerable, and certainly much less appealing.

    By the way, Slide works really well (again); that's the mobile app that I use. You just have to go through the steps to list yourself as an app developer and claim it's your app, which the current Slide maintainer literally instructs you to do to use the app lol. It's great and cuts through all the crap. However, I'm really trying to be more active here across Lemmy, all the same. If Old and the remaining mobile apps like Slide go, then I'm totally out.

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  • [–] 163 points 6 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 61 points 6 months ago (12 children)

    Thank fuck I said goodbye to that place. A shame to see such a fantastic online community be murdered by capitalists try to squeeze money out of it, but probably inevitable.

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  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    The saddest part is it didn't need to be.

    Imagine if, instead of going for an IPO and all this, they operated it as a non-profit? If they just tried to be a cool place for users, like it was for 10 or 15 years already.

    Instead they have to drain the blood out of it and sell it for parts and wonder why it died.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    The investors aren't wondering why it died, they're wondering why they waited so long to kill it for profit before moving onto another thing to kill for profit. They know enough about business to know their actions will destroy the site, but they also know that the money they make just beforehand is enough to make a good return on their investment before they leave. That's the issue with making a system motivated by profit; it's profitable to run a business well for a long time, but it's even more profitable to run it poorly for a short time and then leave.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Same here. I only browse it every now and then to get away from the hyper politics on Lemmy (either extremes are not good for the psyche).
    But the quality on reddit is staggeringly low.
    The comments don't have the vibe like on lemmy.
    I wouldnt call it "hollow" but it's close or adjacent to it. Maybe superficial?
    Too bad the non-political/non-technical communities are kinda dead here :/

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

    The comments don't have the vibe like on lemmy.
    I wouldnt call it "hollow" but it's close or adjacent to it. Maybe superficial?

    Bots?

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    That's what is surprising to me: They didnt exactly feel like bots.
    For example r/sysadmin feels very bot-like. Same for AskReddit (very engagement baity. Sort of like the AskLemmy versions here that feel like bots trying to get very weird research answers).
    Same for r/selfhosted.

    Other subs do not feel like the bots they are frequenting. But it's still very distant.
    Sort of like a conversation in a rural vs metropolitan area.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Literally, any time I have been on there lately (which is much less often) it is very obvious the majority of replies in large communities are bots/AI slop. It is so ridiculous and sad to see what it has become.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    The 50 or so top replies on pretty much every post are always a combination of the same 10 jokes and reaction gifs, plus hundreds of bots replying to those instead of the OP.

    Any time a serious question is asked you have to scroll halfway down the page to get to an answer. It's just not a usable site anymore if you want actual human input and opinions.

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  • [–] 49 points 6 months ago (8 children)
  • [–] -3 points 6 months ago* (6 children)

    Whispering slurs from your mom's basement don't help.

    Bros we need a better lemmy plan.

    More content. And making spez super sad and poor.

    Someone needs to build a Firefox extension to periodically poll best content from subreddits they like and automatically repost to lemmy. Automatically.
    So there are tons more content on lemmy. U get it?

    Not self hosted docker - most people won't bother setting up residential proxies and fight bans, no - just a real browser, simple extension and simple settings, with legit ublock and auto reposting to lemmy. This way people don't have to do shit and content would just transfer.

    It's fair use because it's for ai.

    This will make spez sad and poorer. Let's do this

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    "More bot spam!"

    How bout fuckin no.

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  • [–] 44 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    It works really well for me actually. Every time that mobile app begpost comes up it's a great reminder that I shouldn't even be looking at Reddit at all. Cut down my doomscrolling on my phone immediately.

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  • [–] 41 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    This wouldn't bother me at all if reddit didn't appear at the top of almost every damn question I Google nowadays. Why are you pushing reddit for answers if you won't let me see them?

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    DuckDuckGo. AI only if you ask for it. Actual results. It’s like 2007 google

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Whenever I'm not logged in I see their AI, it's actually much more likely to be accurate than Gemini, probably because the results aren't being filtered through an affiliate list to see if someone is paying to be featured.

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  • [–] 36 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Reached for comment, the company instead offered a puzzling explanation: that the site-breaking popup is for users’ own good.

    Fuck you reddit, fuck /u/spez!

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  • [–] 31 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    RIP reddit. We knew this day would come. At least Spez will have plenty of bot accounts to keep him company.

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  • [–] 19 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    To me, it died when they allowed users to hide their post and comment history. Enables bots and bad faith behavior.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    It died many deaths. But the decision to IPO was the start of this enshitified slide.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    yea IPO started downward spiral, than they start massively purging in anticipation of trumps presidency, and then Musk start attacking subs criticizing him, which spez obliged by banning subs, or purging large amounts of accounts.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago*

    also harder to accuse them of using AI as well, since we know reddit loves all the AI on it , so they can train thier llms(googles and openai) and to prevent people from reporting propaganda accounts too often.

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  • [–] 29 points 6 months ago

    "Personalized experience" AKA "even more ad revenue".

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  • [–] 25 points 6 months ago

    Reddit is not dying fast enough

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  • [–] 23 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    None of this would be a issue if the lazy fucks would migrate to other platforms like Lemmy etc, right now this app is very limited compared to all the various subreddits, people need to start making replicas of the popular and niche subreddits and make it easier for people to migrate

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago* (5 children)

    I would argue that Lemmy.world has even more strict rules than reddit. At least it seems like that sometimes. Certain topics are just deleted.

    I think Lemmy is decent for memes and entertainment but I dont think it can serve as a proper discussion site. The moderation wouldnt work. Unpaid moderators cant keep this place open for good discussions because it requires too much effort. But its good for memes. I like Lemmy in that way. Its positive and fun.

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  • [+] 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    Probably transphobia tbh. That's a hot button issue across Lemmy, as it should be.

    The person you're replying to might be conflating .world with .ml or one of the other authoritarian left instances. On those criticizing any world power other than the US is called out as racism.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago*

    Yeah I never seen anything crazy on .world except some mistakes and a few power tripping community mods but nowhere near what reddit is. Maybe OP is thinking of .ml which is an absolute shithole in every sense of the word.

    Either way that's the entire point of decentralization - you can just hop on a different server.

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  • [–] 23 points 6 months ago (13 children)

    I like how reddit allows moderators to just ban users with basically no appeal process.

    What a great business plan. Allow randoms to decide who gets to keep being a customer

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago* (10 children)

    got a lot of accounts banned for ban evation. I can keep making new ones, create a couple of shitposts and you got enough karma to continue where you left

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    It's hard to make a new account and not get flagged instantly.

    You have to change ip address. Email, even the device you use

    I can't be bothered anymore so now I just don't use reddit

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    You have to change ip address. Email, even the device you use

    Oh no, it might take a whole minute.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    It will take one reboot of my router or one reset of the WAN-interface.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Reddit still fingerprints your device.

    I'm permabanned on reddit. I have a VPN that changes my IP every day or so. If I make a new account on my phone or pc it's banned within a few hours.

    Until I get a new phone or pc I can't make an account. It knows the device, not just the IP.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Idk what you are doing to make that neccessary (and am too afraid to ask)

    I was site banned as well but made a new account a very short time after the ban and have yet to be banned again.

    But it makes sense they are fingerprinting your device somehow to prevent ban-evasion.

    Only way I could see is only visiting the page within a obfuscated/very private OS (like Tails?) or a browser that fully wipes and obfuscates any connection between hardware and browser.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    You needing an entirely new device, like a completely different computer, just takes a whole minute?

    Do you just have spare PC's laying around your house?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    I don't know, I think letting your unpaid product managers have a little bit of leeway in curating the product line probably isn't the most irrational decision, otherwise they'd have to have to review the decisions and make policies and that'd take paid employees or development.

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  • [–] 23 points 6 months ago (1 child)
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    Why??? I will tell you my non expert opinion.

    Reddit makes money by selling data to advertisement companies. Users that aren't logged in are probably hard to track. They probably have a bunch of untargeted data they can't sell for much.

    Reddit does not actually care about the end users experience. They want you to use their site enough to provide them with sellable data. It's like Facebook. Facebook could show you your friends posts in chronological order everyday but instead they throw in all this spam on your feed to keep you on the app. They can see what you're interested in. If all you do is 'like' your friends baby pictures then that data would be hard to sell.

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  • [–] 42 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I got permabanned this week for saying "Poor white people are being tricked into blaming black/brown/trans people for their problems instead of billionaires."

    Apparently it was promoting hate based speech and attacks.

    Reddit was kinda neat 15 years ago, it's a fucking cesspool now.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    I don’t get the purpose of banning people… let them be downvoted into oblivion if necessary

    Same applies to removing comments…

    Why creating a forum if you can’t discuss? Why creating a forum if you can’t have any nuanced opinion?

    It’s pointless. Do people like circle jerks?

    I don’t get it, I too hate certain point of views but I‘m a mature person and accept that people have different opinions. Or there are assholes everywhere, let users deal with that. Let them spit some cuss words and downvote the assholes!

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  • [–] 39 points 6 months ago (22 children)

    https://old.reddit.com/ is still working fine for me.

    If Lemmy would pick up some more content about RVs and sailing I would leave there but meanwhile the old way still works.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah came to say the same. I have a few subreddits I still lurk in because lemmy doesn't have the largest communities on that topic yet. I imagine it is only a matter of time before old reddit is gone.

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago (14 children)

    How much are you posting about RVs and sailing on Lemmy?

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  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago (13 children)

    We can yell into the abyss all we want, but the abyss isn't yelling back.

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Our niche interest communities are slowly being formed on the Fediverse, but if nobody participates then 🤷🏼‍♀️

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Yep, I remember when I first joined Lemmy, you'd be lucky if your post got 2 comments. I recently posted on a car group here and got about as much engagement as I would have on r*ddit.

    I like it here, I like our community. Feels like a comic con in a small city. "I wish people at this con would talk about Squirrel Girl" maybe you should set up a booth. Same applies here.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    I made a couple baseball buddies on Lemmy. Niche communities on Lemmy aren't pointless.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    The birding community is active enough for me. Honestly, I dont want modern day reddit experience in my niche communities. Theyre... Disrespectful? Lots of armchair experts who parrot internet takes and philosophies to get massive upvotes, and the hive mind mentality downvotes counter perspective. I love fly fishing, but damn do I hate the fly fishing subreddits.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    I'll agree to that. Hobby communities on reddit are typically newbies repeating information they read elsewhere on repeat. I've been playing high level hockey since I was a kid and I'll take a peak at the hockey players subreddit. I saw a guy who had been playing for a year telling someone who was brand new to the sport about kick points on a stick. This guy will never reach a level where kick points are something that will affect your shot, but he's out here giving advice.

    Don't even get me started on the cycling subreddit.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    I'll agree to that. It's just the first part where you are the only person sucks. Specifically with local communities.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Hey man! I just bought a used travel trailer. I pick it up in a week and a half. We still have to sit down with the sales guy for the final extended warranty pitch. Two questions:

    1. Are the extended warranties offered by the dealership worth it? I would assume anything major that goes wrong will happen on the road and i'll be stuck getting repairs done in Iowa or some shit.

    2. Do you have any experience with harvest hosts? Is it easy to use and worth the cost? Hows the host availability.

    I got a 21ft geo pro. Probably too big for a lot of boondocking, but i still plan to boondock it as much as possible. I dont love the idea of always being at KOAs and such.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Are the extended warranties offered by the dealership worth it?

    Not in my opinion but it depends how you’ll be using the trailer. The thing people don’t expect is that warranty work gets last priority. When you bring in the trailer for warranty work, there is no new revenue for the dealership. So the trailer will just sit there on the lot, possibly for months, waiting until the repair guys have literally nothing else to do, before they will actually start work on it.

    This is super unprofessional but seems to be the industry norm.

    If you’re only going to use the trailer a couple times a year maybe this is fine, but if you use it a lot and you need to be back on the road fast then it makes the warranty basically unusable.

    Plus also what you said, unless you bought from a national dealer the warranty will not help you with emergency roadside stuff. But mostly when things break it won’t stop you from towing the trailer — you would just finish your vacation with no refrigerator or whatever which is annoying but not fatal.

    I live in mine full-time. When things break that I can’t fix myself my first choice is a mobile tech so I don’t have to get a hotel while they fix it.

    Do you have any experience with harvest hosts?

    No, I haven’t tried it. Some people seem to like it a lot, other people complain. 🤷

    I got a 21ft geo pro. Probably too big for a lot of boondocking, but i still plan to boondock it as much as possible. I dont love the idea of always being at KOAs and such.

    21’ is not too big for boondocking. The thing about boondocking is you have to somehow know where to find a good spot. iOverlander website is good for that. Out west, especially in the desert, there are lots of places on public land where there is a usable gravel road with big cleared sites that anyone can get to in any size RV. Other places where it rains more, not so much — tight twisty potholed dirt roads through the forest with little carve-out spots between trees are not good for big setups. Regional parks, state parks, natural forest parks, and national parks are often pretty awesome. There’s also a lot of RV parks out in the middle of nowhere that can be super nice and park-y — shout out to La Conner thousand trails in WA, Pacific City thousand trails in OR, “The Narrows” in Maine — but very hit or miss; some are just a parking lot, too. KOA is convenient and consistent but expensive. We use them when they’re the closest campground to someplace we want to be visiting (just got out of three days at KOA near my sister in law) but yeah if you like boondocking then KOA will not be a fun destination for you.

    Good luck, have fun, don’t cheap out on the hose you use for dumping your black tank.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    Agreed. I was all confused AF until I realized that people don’t automatically use it, or using the auto-redirect apps that help prevent New Reddit from ever showing its face.

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