wtf is going on in france

Be aware, very old people die from this as a secondary cause from a primary of Alzheimer's and other dementias. They just stop eating. It's a misleading statistic to use to identify poverty based malnutrition. It's a very common diagnosis in terminal patients. And the way US billing works, getting the most diagnosis codes recorded is important for reimbursement. It's likely the cause for this disparity.

Edit: yeah 2015 is when ICD-10 adoption and cms billing changes went into play. And then the rate quadrupled. This is an artifact of the US's dumb private/public insurance model for end of life as more people gamed the system for reimbursement. The spread of billing practices over time.

WTF is going on in france

Vietnam undefeated

Yeah, but those are poor people, so 🤷‍♂️

I see that some people try to attribute this to older population and/or Alzheimer, but even by those metrics the countries above are pretty close and wouldn't justify such a big gap:

As for the reliability of data, it's from a peer reviewed study by an American university. If they had a way to make the China data look worse, I'm sure they wouldn't hesitate.

You’re mixing two population averages, so you need a weighted calculation.

Let’s approximate first: France has about 67 million people out of roughly 447 million in the European Union, so ≈15% French and 85% non-French.

We set up:

Overall EU rate = weighted average 1.7=0.15⋅8+0.85⋅x

Solve:

1.7=1.2+0.85x 0.5=0.85x x≈0.59

So, among non-French Europeans, the rate is roughly 0.6 per 100,000.

That’s substantially lower than both the French rate (8) and the EU average (1.7), which makes sense given how high the French figure is relative to the rest. Also this is pretty much what I read for Vietnam in this chart.

thanks France, for ruining our numbers!

Edit: somewhere in this thread someone from France gives a perfectly good reason and connects the high starvation rate to assisted suicide. Which shines it's light on another problem but very well explains and justifies the "starvation rate" - making this graph/comparison even more absurd.

Best anti-capitalist argument.

When they counted, they counted hundreds of thousands! We didn't count therefore the number is zero, well done! The good and simple people of Starvation Land can sleep easy knowing that no one ever starves in Starvation Land

/s

Isn't malnutrition also englobe stuff as too much food and bad food ? Pretty sure a big portion of thoses are fat Americans that kill themself with food

Could you please link the precise source?

When searching this, I found the figure doesn't match the numbers from IHME https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/malnutrition-death-rates?tab=table&tableSearch=France

The image is misinformation. It’s Niger on top with 25.2.

France is actually at 2.7.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/malnutrition-death-rates

The small subtitle holds the important part:

deaths by protein-energy

WTF is going on in France?