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[–] 1 point 6 months ago

"I'm not touching you!" ✈️👉🧍

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    [–] 273 points 6 months ago (21 children)

    Why does everything have to be such a fucking scam?

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  • [–] 140 points 6 months ago (15 children)
  • [–] 68 points 6 months ago (14 children)

    I'm not an economist, but this is probably technically true

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  • [–] 55 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (13 children)

    GDP measures the value of all goods and services produced in a country. A legal scam can hide as a service and get counted.

    This is why cars are good for GDP but mass transit isn’t, because a lot more cost goes into a car than a bus on a per rider basis.

    The same goes for health insurance. Simply paying a doctor for services is far less GDP than paying an insurance company who then pays the doctor after taking a cut.

    Once you realize what GDP measures a lot of what countries do makes sense.

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  • [–] 28 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    if i burn down your house, the gdp grows, because lot of people now have work rebuilding it.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    So what you are saying is that billionarie houses having to be rebuilt after a fire would great for the GDP.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Yup. But, that dollar changes hands far more times in the society with higher costs. That's a good thing, assuming costs don't dwarf income

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Each time money moves: one trade happened. Someone bought, someone sold something. It's all activity. Money moving around fast: a lot of activity, people getting what they want. Money sitting still: stagnation, no work done, no production etc.

    That's the theory. Of course reality is a bit more complicated. People doing volunteer work is often net positive for humanity but won't show up in economic metrics.

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  • [–] 15 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    There’s also the fact that a lot of those dollars moving are against people’s will or for stupid, inefficient reasons.

    If we each paid each other a thousand bucks an hour not to hit each other then that grows GDP without doing anything useful.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    But think about how much this could be taxed, this looks like zero-sum if you pay the same to me that I pay to you, but it is negative sum for us, and the government benefits from all the shuffling.

    Now it looks like another incentive to create inefficient meddling processes with extra steps.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    Every time I trim my head I remind myself Im stealing the gdp increase from the state and chuckles..

    Of course, I also chuckle when I burn sticks in the spring because Im burning faschists (from the latin word fasces) so my sense of humour is not very high

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  • [–] 126 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Airlines ABSOLUTELY change their prices if you repeatedly check routes to a city. I have watched them change by over $100 over a few hours a day when contemplating a trip using their flight searches.

    I now do all the flight route and time checking with a browser private window, no location being served, and VPN with an exit far from where I am, then use a phone on a cellular network to do any booking or vice versa in order to prevent tracking or some sort of identifying hash they might grab.

    It's such a cheapass scam to basically gouge a customer based on interest.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    does this apply to Skyscanner (app)

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  • [–] 23 points 6 months ago

    You might be already paying a premium for a Skyscanner's cut. I'd suggest find the flight on Skyscanner and then go directly to that airline's website to see what the price is there.

    I just tried it and got 723 on Skyscanner and 547 for the same ticket direct from airline.

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  • [–] 93 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    JetBlue is hardly the first airline to fall into the limelight for potentially changing its prices based on a user’s browser history.

    The Federal Trade Commission has studied surveillance pricing methods since 2024, and found retailers often used people’s personal information to set individualized pricing information. FTC Chairman Andrew Ferguson said he “directed staff to start examining” if new disclosure rules are needed by companies during a Senate Commerce Committee earlier this month.

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  • [–] 88 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    or, OR... We could ban the fuckery

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  • [–] 43 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    The best I can do is give tariff refunds to companies and fuck over the lower class.

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago

    According to a California audit last month which analyzed open network traffic across more than 7,600 popular websites scanned from California, over half (55%) of sites set advertising cookies even after users explicitly rejected them. More than three-quarters (78%) of consent banners failed to enforce the user’s choice at all, while Google ignored 86% of opt-out requests.

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  • [–] 70 points 6 months ago (11 children)

    Not surprised. Always book tickets in private browsing, preferably with a VPN. Expect to get upcharged otherwise.

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  • [–] 58 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    In countries that are not the US, they just don't stand for that shit and make it illegal.

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  • [–] 31 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    You're not wrong, but we don't all have the capability to move to another country, for both legal and financial reasons.

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  • [–] 37 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    We're not saying Americans should move somewhere else; we're saying Americans (collectively) need to fix their broken ass country, looking at others for inspiration.

    Easier said than done OFC.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I am going to vote unlike millions of Americans who don’t

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    They say you can't be arrested for anything you do in a voting booth. There's a dude who smokes a joint every election as a protest and to prove a point. I plan to just sit down and cry when I get my turn in the booth.

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    Those are good tips. Be aware though that they have multiple ways of tracking you (like screen size) and if you have a unique flight (e.g. departing from Boston arriving in Gary, IN on 4/29. Return on 5/5), they can figure it out.

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  • [–] 40 points 6 months ago

    Good on that JetBlue employee for showing a level of empathy. They were probably fired for it, but at least they went out with a bang.

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  • [–] 28 points 6 months ago

    I am going to run for Congress in 2028, and my entire platform is going to be built around making it legal to Luigi corrupt people and burn down corrupt businesses.

    This shit is not going to stop until we get bloody.

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  • [+] 17 points 6 months ago (9 children)
  • [–] 21 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Oh Uber absolutely does this! I drive for them occasionally, and sometimes I'll see price hike a little and not for very long. Then I tried to use it one time drunk at a bar ~2 miles away. Checking back and forth for about an hour or went from ~$70 to ~$30. And shocker, the driver said he was only getting a few bucks on the surge premium.

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    I once bought a couple copies of a book as an inside joke for a couple friends.

    It was not at all a popular book, I can pretty much guarantee that you've never heard of it or it's writer, and odds are you'd probably hate it if you did ever read it.

    I think when I bought them they were going for about $5 a pop.

    And immediately after I ordered them the price shot up to like $15

    I can only assume that the algorithm assumed that something happened that made that book popular all of a sudden, instead of just one asshole buying a couple copies to give to his asshole friends as a joke.

    Took a few months before the price dropped down again.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Was the book Ulrich Haarbürste's Novel of Roy Orbison in Clingfilm?

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    That is not the core memory I wanted unlocked.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    It’s actually one of my favorite books. Despite the title, it is shockingly wholesome and, I can’t stress this enough, it is in no way sexual or erotic in any way.

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    My answer to this is always "I opened an incognito window, effectively the same thing"

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  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    That didn't matter for me recently. On a site, flights in cart, looked at rental car for <5 minutes and the outbound flights jumped ~$60/ticket in that time "due to demand" when the flight was 80%empty...

    Got on my phone, on data (so new browser, new IP) still prices are higher. Hopped on my old phone over VPN to change region, checked out a different leave date, checked a couple, went back to my original date and flights were $40 cheaper (so still $20 more than before) but they gotta know based on Geo IP and time of inquiries it's probably all the same person, smh.

    What a scam!!

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago

    that's a cool website that I'll never be able to read

    https://archive.is/7d2Ky

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    I haven’t had this happen to me with European airlines I think. Is there maybe some law forcing them to keep steady prices? From what I’ve seen (though I don’t fly that often) prices don’t really fluctuate and just rise with more demand, with some last minute tickets going for pennies.

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  • [–] 15 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    If you check on a flight regularly it will show you a different price. That increase you are seeing is your own interest raising it.

    Never accept cookies, use blockers

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    My dumb ass just realised that I haven’t accepted cookies from airlines or skyscanner ever since I was an adult so maybe that’s why lol

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I have always heard of this but thought it was an urban legend. I've never seen my flights change price after I looked them up more than once. And I always check first with Skyscanner and then search those flights with my browser and find them at the same price. Does this actually happen in Europe? Or is it illegal here?

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    Living in Europe now and we’ve not seen it too much but while in USA yeah we needed a flight from Dallas to NYC and it went from $150 to $600 after I was clicking in to buy it. We just waited a day and bought a $200 flight from another company

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    I still haven't figured out if Google's flight search forwards view data similar to checking on the actual airline's website because I've definitely seen price hikes occur in realtime, but I can't tell if that's because of constant rechecks close to the flight date, or just the static algorithm increasing the price as the flight date approaches.

    Otherwise I'm kind of skeptical of how they allow Google to use such data and present it for free.

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