Now, he's shrugging off a law Congress passed decades ago to preserve White House papers — and historians are taking him to court.

At stake is the fate of millions of papers and electronic messages — not just for Trump's second term in office, but for future presidents and people who want to understand them.

Matthew Connelly, a history professor at Columbia University, says the move shows Trump is trying to ensure the presidency "is answerable to no one, not even the court of history."

"This latest case is just another example of the utter contempt with which they hold not just history but the rights of their fellow citizens to hold them to account," he said, about the current administration.

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[–] 42 points 6 months ago (10 children)

The issue here is a weak Congress that keeps not using the one process that the people who made this country put in there to ensure that Congress reminds the President that "uh huh, you do have to have some accountability."

And they keep not using that one process because they've wholly abandoned the notion of "country first".

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    To be fair the entire government has ignored 90% of everything the founding fathers put in to ensure things ran smoothly.

    Oh my sweet summer child, the founding scoundrels plan is going according to plan.

    Which was "for rich by the rich." from the very beginning.

    Maybe read a history book and not Hollywood movies for history lessons next time.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    Just sharing a thought in case you're open to it.

    Its great reading threads where people debate and counter each other. It can change and shape my opinions on all kinds of subjects. But when the threads just name calling it feels kind of gross, and is a real put off the opinions being shared.

    You seem to know the subject, so I'll bet you've got some really interesting points you could share. I'd love to see a tidbit on how the founding fathers did this intentionally.

    Any chance you could share a couple to help give some background to your point.

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  • [–] 22 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Those records are long gone. Believing otherwise would be utter naivete.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Those records are long gone.

    Unlikely. You've got backups of backups scattered across any number of systems. Only question is whether they'll be recovered at the end of the term or tossed aside so we can "Look forward, not backwards".

    Trump's team is serially incompetent. You think Kash Patel is practicing good data hygiene when he can't even keep a Signal chat secure?

    But what is future President Pete Buttigieg going to do with Kash's old cell and laptop when he takes office? Submit them to FOIA requests? Or trash them and say they were never found?

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    They are communicating over encrypted messaging services, dude.

    We are never seeing that shit.

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  • [–] 19 points 6 months ago

    Watergate 🤣🤣🤣

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago

    Taking him to court

    Good luck, I am sure everything is already destroyed, "oops sorry," and nothing will happen over it. Like demolishing the White House.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago

    If you've got nothing to hide...

    Oh right, that's for the commons and not for those in power.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago

    In his first presidency, he was already known to burn and shred papers despite being regularly warned against it. There have been stories of presidential toilets getting clogged by flushed-down documents.

    He simply does not want to leave evidence of his own incompetence.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    evidence could be destroyed.

    And trump’s crew is already doing what they can to avoid records of anything by use of personal email and encrypted thirf party messaging.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    "We gave up trying to stop Trumpy from eating all the Post-It's after his second week of his first term. He likes the pink ones best."

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    No one should be naïve enough to think they'd follow it anyway.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    "Papers"...

    Shouldn't that read "evidence"?

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    to trump no due process and illegal search and seizure are constitutional if done by him but not keeping records about it.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    He can shove them up his arse; history will judge him horribly no matter what he does, and he'll deserve it.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    No other country should treat the US as a serious entity unless there are Nuremberg style trials conducted by the next administration for the current infestation.

    It should also be unquestionably unacceptable for an entity to ever be tolerated with the unilateral power and privilege the US has accumulated and enjoyed over the past century.

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    [–] 17 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Lately, whenever I read an headline like this one, I start to feel like I'm losing my mind.

    This can't be the way things are supposed to go. It's like I'm living in the Biff future in BTTF.

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago

    NO! It’s US, the American people, you twatwaffle!

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago

    When he's gone and we're working on plugging these exploits never used by more honorable men (I realize this includes Nixon, ugh), I think historians will begin to point out all the horrible shit. But they will say he did inadvertent good by exposing vulnerabilities in the government.

    That's if things go well and a majority collectively learn in hindsight how fucked up things are.

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