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[–] 123 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

I actually don't really care if the assassination attempt was staged or not...

(For the record, I don't believe it was, because I don't believe this group of chucklefucks could successfully execute such an event without totally cocking it up somehow or accidentally texting their plans to the New York Times.)

...because I know for a fact that Trump has done so many horrifying things right out in public where we can see them that if there was any functional justice in the world he'd already be locked up for the rest of his miserable fucking life. Faking an assassination attempt wouldn't even be in the top hundred worst things that he's done.

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  • [–] 100 points 6 months ago (27 children)

    I thought it was obvious from the video that he nicked his ear on the secret service person's belt buckle on the way down when they were piling onto him? It explains the paltry amount of blood that appears only after he's down, not to mention the optimal healing time. No bullet did that.

    I don't believe it was staged. Everything that came after, yes, lies upon lies, exploiting the situation to its maximum potential, absolutely. But a real rifle was fired, a real bystander was killed, and Trump's secret service really was incompetent enough to let it happen. No need to invent anything when the obvious truth is damning enough.

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  • [–] 34 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (23 children)

    Given how pivotal it was to his campaign, I think it's worth considering how such a thing could be pulled off if it was planned:

    People that want to tell stories to drive history need the right characters. Modern information technology makes that easier than ever.

    Find a kid with firearm access who's into something embarrassing online. Preferably someone who wouldn't shoot the president, so a supporter. Tell him you know what he does in secret and you'll tell everyone, including police, if they don't co-operate.

    Tell them to go to the chosen firing position and to shoot into the crowd behind the candidate. Tell them you'll provide protection and a getaway. Tell them there will be a magazine loaded with blanks for them to use at the firing position (they're live rounds).

    When the shots are fired, secret service ties off the loose end without any interaction from the planners, and the kid never even has a name for who put him up to it.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    reminds me of that one Black Mirror episode

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago*

    Definitely came to mind while thinking about this. Seems entirely plausible to me. Trump's campaign had the resources, considering his connections to people like Erik Prince and the devil knows who else. An extremely simple and hard to trace operation once they've honey-potted the "right person".

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

    For your consideration: It's somewhat well known the reason Trump eats so much fast food hamburger is because he has a fear of being assassinated by poison (due to a lifetime of screwing people over and socializing with the wrong sort). Do you really think that kind of paranoia would agree to allow a mentally unstable kid with a rifle anywhere near him? That doesn't make sense to me.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

    It makes sense to me if he trusts the people planning. It's possible the bullet that killed the person in the crowd didn't come from the kid, that the kid did actually fire blanks for the narrative while the shooter was someone more skilled and trusted by the campaign. Just spit balling.

    Keep in mind, it was either winning or jail for Trump, and this really did turn things around for his run, so there were likely risks he was willing to take, especially if the people planning assured him there'd be no real risk to him.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    "if he trusts the people planning" LOL nah.

    https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2017-10-20/president-trump-thinks-hes-the-smartest-person-in-the-room

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/aug/25/trump-staff-incompetent-sycophants

    You are ascribing a level of logistical forethought to his team that just, isn't possible. What is consistent with his every action, is that a media obsessed opportunist looked at the "man, woman, and camera" and decided to strike a pose from Breakfast Club or whatever thing he last remembered. Biff Tannen, Home Alone, The Apprentice, yadda yadda.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    You think he won through incompetence? Interesting take.

    The machine that got him elected was not incompetent. Roger Stone, for example, is a helluva schemer and has been in the game a loooooong time.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I'm not much for introspection, but when you put it like that ... yes actually.

    I will tell you that I grew up a bit conservative and one of the things that "The American media apparatus and conservative think tanks and their unholy amounts of billionaire funding Koch et al." did was build up the idea of politics as a sleazeball game to disenfranchise people. I still believe it a bit. Biff had by and large built up a cult following based in no small part that he was at one point an outsider and "tells it like it is", unapologetically petty, stupid, but also affable and a joker, racist and greedy.

    He (was?), genuinely bonafide stupid and watches TV all day and enough people thought that that was their best reflection. "Authentic" but also... really bleak.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    We should learn more about him for those exact reasons.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Agreed. Kid "tries to assassinate" the now president and we still know so little about him.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    The reason is because he was rightwing, same as the kid who took out Charlie Kirk. It destroys the narrative that liberals are violent when everyone who takes shots at your leadership are from the home team. If it was true, we'd know everything about these people. But it's not, so the info gets suppressed instead.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Is there any evidence to indicate the shooter was blackmailed?

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

    Of course not. Why would there be? If there was that would be the story instead of a hypothesis.

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Then why do you believe that's what happened?

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I believe it's a plausible alternative explanation.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    So purely baseless speculation with no ulterior motive, sure. You're trying to insinuate conspiracy while maintaining plausible deniability.

    Your "plausible alternative explanation" isn't much different then saying the assassination attempt was conducted by space aliens. We can say all kinds of things if we disregard the need for evidence.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    You go ahead and believe the "official" story that a Trump supporter sacrificed his life for the helluvit and it just happened to turn Trump's floundering campaign around.

    What do you mean no ulterior motive? I proposed one very clearly: desperate self-preservation for the shooter, and political points for the planner.

    Why would I care about plausible deniability on an internet forum? Am I on trial? lol

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Or tell a crazy person you think there'll be someone who is going to try to assinate the president and no one believes you on a forum. Drip feed it so you get him to go exactly where you want. .

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child)

    The bullet could have hit the podium, which caused a bunch of bits to blow off, one of which cut his ear.

    Edit: I read this theory in the reporting when it happened, and it was never really addressed or officially denied or dismissed later on.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago*

    Occams Razor may have nicked his ear also? Wait a second, same thing. But yeah 100% this comment above.

    The regime took a situation, spun the bejesus out of it. And umm, that is what was offered up. Poor kid could have received some therapy. Turning him into target practice was way way more cost effective and therefore practical. 🤮

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  • [–] 248 points 6 months ago (30 children)

    The party of conspiracy theories is finally catching on to this one. 😮‍💨

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  • [–] 115 points 6 months ago (25 children)

    Well, the previous theory they held was that God redirected this bullet away from the great and holy warrior Trump and into an evil and unrepentant volunteer firefighter at his rally.

    But even they are finding that harder to believe every day.

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  • [–] 26 points 6 months ago (11 children)

    The devil may be evil but professionals have standards. Perhaps Trump is protected by a god who is also a rapist like Zeus.

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  • [–] 15 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    The Greek gods did quite enjoy playing with the mortals for their own, often sadistic, entertainment. Trump is probably their favorite comedic character in the currently ongoing production.

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    I'm pretty sure the only chill gods in Greek mythology are Hephaestus, Hades and Persephone, and weirdly enough Dionysus since he is just the god of sex, drugs, and rock and roll also crippling madness.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    sex, drugs, and rock and roll also crippling madness

    I mean have you heard stories from the 60s-70s? I'm thoroughly convinced the only reason this isn't part of the slogan is it wouldn't fit on a shirt.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    Honestly yeah. Fun fact I've on more than one occasion have considered making lore for a Slaaneshi Ultramarine warband based on the Dionysian Mysteries with some 1970s aesthetics mixed in. Haven't quite gotten how I'd want them to look down though.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Ares, while of course being the god of War, was never accused of being a rapist, but he did murder someone trying to rape his daughter.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Why wouldn't the devil save his own son?

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast. People worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can wage war against it?”

    The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise its authority for forty-two months. It opened its mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven. It was given power to wage war against God’s holy people and to conquer them. And it was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation. All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago* (5 children)

    Trump is the beast and AI is the Anti-Christ.

    Peter Thiel is the devil.

    I don't actually believe this, but it does work shockingly well.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon. It exercised all the authority of the first beast on its behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed. And it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people. Because of the signs it was given power to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived the inhabitants of the earth. It ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (3 children)

    Only one problem, more and more people think Trump is an idiot every day.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Then I saw another angel flying in midair, and he had the eternal gospel to proclaim to those who live on the earth—to every nation, tribe, language and people. He said in a loud voice, “Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of his judgment has come. Worship him who made the heavens, the earth, the sea and the springs of water.”

    A second angel followed and said, “‘Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great,’ which made all the nations drink the maddening wine of her adulteries.”

    A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives its mark on their forehead or on their hand, they, too, will drink the wine of God’s fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. They will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment will rise for ever and ever. There will be no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and its image, or for anyone who receives the mark of its name.”

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  • [–] 55 points 6 months ago* (3 children)

    They think he staged his own fake assassination, while also blaming Jews and remaining staunch Trump supporters. So just the usual incoherent cultish mumblings, not any actual insight or any movement away from him.

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  • [–] 21 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Blaming TEH JOOOZ is never too far off when discussing conspiracy theories.

    What I hate about some of these people waking the fuck up about Israel with the bullshit America-Israel attack on Iran, is that for some of them, it only validates their feelings on Jews because they are too stupid to separate some Jewish cabal notion from matters of foreign policy for nations like the United States and Israel...sigh.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago*

    Unfortunately you seem to use something called 'your brain' to conjure your own reasoning of the world around you. The average conspiracy theorist does not do this. The average conspiracy theorist believes that they're the main character and everyone else is just drifting through life waiting to bear witness to their glory.

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    Oh they're finally catching up? Wait until they hear about the Epstein files

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  • [–] 32 points 6 months ago (14 children)

    I watched a YouTube video where someone tried to recreate the shot that apparently sliced his ear so slightly that all it did was bleed a little...and they failed every time.

    Simply due to the pressure wave created by the passing bullet, there was no possible way that bullet just knicked him without also doing noticeable damage to the rest of his head. That side of his face would have been bruised and swollen, and his entire ear would have been pulped.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Wasn't it glass that caused the cut?

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    I think the secret service or something came out and said "it wasn't the glass"

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Could have been when they where manhandling him. Could have been anything really. Old people have very fragile skin.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    The word you are looking for is soft. Trump is very soft, almost pillowly. Not just on the outside either, he is very soft on the inside and his brain is very soft to. Soft little hands and soft saggy balls with a little soft dick.

    The only part that is hard is his thick skull, but despite this he is still soft in the head.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago

    Because Trump wanted to have been shot, not hit with a shard of glass, in a location likely above the ear.

    But, tiny shard of glass doesn't play well with the base.

    The real cut was likely sealed with medical adhesive the second Trump was in the car. That too wouldn't play well, so he got a medic to slap a bandage on the side of his head, but he took it off because his dumbass followers were wearing ear diapers as well.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    He was prepared for it, and learned the trick from the McMahons of cutting your ear a little bit in the ring. Palm a safety pin or razor blade and boom, nicked ear

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  • [–] 15 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Yes, the sundowning old dipshit is well known for his feats of legerdemain.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago*

    I know it sounds silly. He loves wrasslin', and he's a showman. I wouldn't put it past him in one of his more lucid moments.

    Actually I first bought in to the idea that he scraped it on something on the way down...

    I wouldn't grasp at straw like this if they weren't lying to us twenty times a day

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  • [–] 31 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    so they shoot a kid until the body was destroyed just to make it look more real

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago* (4 children)

    They good like that. Sickening & quite unfortunate. But at least we know their strategy & strengths or(weakest points). Tomato tomato.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Both were pronounced toe- may-toe btw. Just in case anyone might be curious if I referenced toe-may-toe & toe-mah-toe. Nope. Straight up Tomater.🍅!

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  • [–] 28 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Yeah, I wouldn't rule it out immediately given how this chickenshit POS jumped up, and the Secret Service let him, for his very convenient photo-op, and then these dumbasses started selling shirts of it.

    His actions in this case seem quite the contrast to the way he reacted to that bald eagle....

    I still don't understand the way his ear healed up - does he have any sort of scar there?

    In any case, no matter all the details, it served its purpose and probably helped to get this completely unqualified asshole back into office again.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    and the Secret Service let him

    They were probably getting him out of there after confirmation the shooter was killed.

    Great seeing the left and right finding common ground in unrealistic conspiracy theories.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    No the “let him” part refers to when they let him pop his fucking head back up to hold his fist up for the photo op when there was probably still an active shooter. They didn’t move him off the stage until after the photo op.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    Yes, this. In all seriousness, I accept the official narrative.

    That photo op, though. It just seems so out of character for PEDOnald especially when you can see how he flinched from a bald eagle. Could have been the rush of the moment, though. I've never had the displeasure of being shot at.

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  • [–] 28 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    I just think it’s weird there’s just next to nothing known about all these assassins. They just stop talking about them and aren’t interested once they find out they’re also MAGA. If they were a Dem they wouldn’t shut up about it I’m sure.

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child)

    I enjoy the occasional conspiracy theory content for entertainment - it's fascinating psychology to me. If I could get a PhD in it, I could do a 200-page thesis this weekend.

    Between this and ol' neck-hole, the T voters started off really just salivating ready to get out their guns and start mowing down anyone left of alt-right Rwanda-style. When the obvious profile of "nut with a gun" pointed the finger back at people like them with mental health issues and guns, it forced a lot of what it normally forces - some sort of delusion of "DeepState-CIA-Massad-FBI-Unilever-SCJohnsonWax-Soros wanted (insert name here) dead because of (insert batshit crazy thing here)."

    They have such a level of group-think and us-vs-them bias that it's genuinely incomprehensible that someone "on their team" could do anything bad to anyone. Self-reflection and wondering things like "oh....should we have gun regulation?" is tantamount to self-castration to them. That's not an exaggeration.

    As a group, under-educated rural voters that trend towards conspiracy mindsets (for 20-40 years, long before MAGA was a thing) have spent so long gaslighting themselves into thinking that nothing bad can happen IRL with no conspiracy behind it unless it fits into their "when do we get to use the guns?" Turner Diary (which was rope, but that's not important) genocidal moment, nothing else is possible. Only conspiracies and the terrible atrocities of liberals happen. Nothing else. Ever.

    So when the Butler, PA guy doesn't fit the "Evil Satan-worshiping Urban Youth DemoRAT with a gun!" model, the default position is "See? ThEy almost succeeded!"

    Then fast-forward a year and once the Epstein stuff comes back around, which makes the whole house of cards wobbly, they've dug themselves into such a deep hole mentally, there's no coming back from it. Just throwing one MAGA personality into the pit after the next because they're all connected to Israeli money, so they're burning their own talking heads faster than new ones can rise up the ranks. So at this point, everything to them is a psyop, everything is false flags and mind control and the CIA because the reality that Republicans and wealthy people are huge shitbags doesn't fit their 2 allowed modes of thinking.

    Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.

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  • [–] 25 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    On Telegram, prominent QAnon promoter MJ Truth asked his 100,000 followers: “How does everyone feel about the narrative surrounding the Butler Assassination Attempt on Trump?”

    The overwhelming majority of the hundreds of replies, almost all of whom remain Trump supporters, said they believed the incident had been staged and that the truth may never come out. “The truth will come out 60+ years from now when we're all dead and nobody really cares anymore … just like JFK!!!!,” one follower wrote.

    There you go.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Wait the truth about JFK is out?

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