He's obsessed (quokk.au)
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A flowchart starting with: Do you want a computer? No points to MacOS, yes points to the question Do you want a working computer. Yes points to Linux, no points to the question Are you Linus Tech Tips. Yes points to Pop OS, no points to Windows.

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[–] 126 points 6 months ago (10 children)

the interessting thing with linus is that he 1. plays the non tech person and 2. has pretty bad luck with linux fetures that are broken or bugs because he stumbles over them to 120%.

I also like the contrast between Linus and Luke because Luke drives Mint on his Laptop and cachy os on something other and he has very few problems.

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Luke has had problems he mentions on the WAN show. But they two really arent comparable because Luke's use case is completely different hes much closer to the average person. He only uses a web browser and some light gaming.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Average person?

    In talking computer literacy, he is easily within the 1 percent of the 1 percent.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    The difference is Linus is not an average person but for these Linux challenges tries to pretend to be (people who work in tech are generally very bad at pretending to be average users) meanwhile Luke wasn't pretending to be someone he's not

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    Oh does he do it like chess engines where it seems like playing at a low level is still playing with an almost prefect engine, only it adds random "inaccuracies" that are mistakes no human would ever make, like suddenly hanging their queen with no actual intent behind the move other then being a random mistake?

    Like "oh, a average user would have made a mistake by now, so let's remove an important directory to simulate that"?

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  • [+] 1 point 6 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 134 points 6 months ago (14 children)

    Linus has a skill for messing things up with Linux

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  • [–] 78 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    It's a little crazy to me how the most popular tech youtuber struggles so much with Linux, meanwhile fucking PewDiePie, who's not known for being particularly bright, has been making videos about Linux and selfhosting and how fun it is to configure his system lol.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    no pewdiepie 1000% messed things up on linux. the difference is he didnt show it in his videos

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    If you mess up and then fix it/start over and get it right the second time around, did you mess up?

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    LTT isn't known for being bright either.

    The main draw of his channel is that he has no idea what he's doing.

    Like his budget builds that rely on buying parts later so they aren't included in the price. Or that he stands on the cases to close them.

    It's just about watching a monkey play with tech.

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    [–] 69 points 6 months ago (11 children)

    I’m borderline Linux illiterate and have been using Pop as my daily driver for years without problems.

    I think I’ve had to troubleshoot a major issue exactly one time and that was easy.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    Btw, Pop OS has said they will comply and add age attestation in case you weren't aware.

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  • [–] 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children)

    If its legally required what are their options? I currently use Pop! OS, what are my options in that scenario? Like legally speaking how does age verification work?

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Like legally speaking how does age verification work?

    Basically no government who require has ever give plan on how to do. Or what to do. Or what to actually verify (select ok? estimate via face ok? estimate via big data ok? id ok? birth certificate ok? nobody know). Or how make sure root not change birthday after verify... which impossible.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    I dont know about what other "distros" are doing, but systemd is adding an optional field to the optional userdb module to store the user's age, and then with xdg a program can query it and it will just return if the user is over 18 or not, then all the distro has to do is add a way to set the age if they want to comply.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    There are many distros that have said they will not implement the age attestation/verification feature into the distro. Many distros are not developed/located in the US, therefore they do not have to comply. The link below is kept updated to show which OSes will or will not comply

    github.com/BryanLunduke/DoesItAgeVerify

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Linking to a conservative fuckwit's GitHub is an interesting choice tho

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  • [–] 52 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    There was something that happened a while ago that made all the tech influencers look kinda silly in regards to Linux. I'll never forget this comment on one of the videos around the kerfuffle. 'All these computer experts have just been downgraded to Windows influencers.' It's so true how they can tell you all the inner workings of a Windows machine and the moment they try Linux their expertise just falls apart.

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  • [–] 49 points 6 months ago (37 children)

    I have a test desktop that I put Pop OS on (when I was testing distros) and it seems fine. I'm not a huge fan of Cosmic so far but its alright.

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  • [–] 36 points 6 months ago (26 children)
  • [–] 62 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (24 children)

    People love gnome unironically? #kdeftw

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    My first distro was Debian and I loved Gnome so much that I've never gotten around to trying anything else despite being on my 3rd distro hop.

    I'm an old head and a firm believer in keyboard first computing. And I think an OS's job is to be invisible until I need it. Gnome get's out of my way until I summon whatever I need from it with the keyboard. For someone who's labored under Windows for so long, Gnome is like escaping Plato's cave.

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  • [–] 24 points 6 months ago (10 children)

    I don't really get it either. I used gnome once and needed multiple extensions to get functionality that is the default of KDE

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Even with several random extensions, gnome runs for 6 months for me before having the instability problems I had on KDE in 6 minutes

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Last time KDE gave me issue was when they switched to Wayland by default I think. And even then that was mostly on me. πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child)

    KDE for me was death by 1000 cuts. I'd get a notification that I need to reboot my system but clicking the X doesn't close it. The settings GUI pretty abysmal, but ig when you compare it to Windows it still looks golden. Randomly can't wake up from sleep sometimes until i restart my display manager from a TTY. The "task manager" didn't let me see all running tasks... It's somehow so polished while also being janky.

    Gnome alternatively is all polish, but you have to fight tooth and nail to go beyond defaults. I'm sure it's more bloated too.

    Now im on Niri with plenty of other problems but at least they're my fault!

    edit: I feel the need to extol the virtues of KDE plasma as I still do return to it when i've had enough of niri's BS for the day

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    I used to get that as well but that was largely due to NVIDIA drivers. Either have to get a tty on the local machine or SSH into it and do a reset. But I haven't had so much as a peep out of that machine since the Nvsync or Ntsync or whatever it was got merged. I had it happen outside of KDE as well.

    I remember when KDE first rolled out plasma and the shit show it started out as. That's when GNOME really blew up. But since the late 5.X and especially 6.5-6 its been solid. They broke off with a lot of those old abandoned themes etc with the 6.X series as well. That would often fail to function and shit the desktop. I haven't encountered anything like that in the 6.X repos. My biggest gripe with any of them currently is the deskbar macos style that's poorly exposed and configured. But comes by default from a few distro like garuda. And predictably isn't consistent. When it works it's nice. When it doesn't it's confusing.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I tried to customize the UI and had the DE crash like 5 times in 5 minutes. Took it as a sign. It's ugly as can be but I was willing to put in some time to fix it but it seems luck was not on my side.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    GNOME is not meant to be customized. Don't even try. If your concept of customization goes beyond adding a panel in a different spot. It's truly asking for grief. Their add-ons/plugins are fairly neat with all the different languages they can be written in etc. But with all the breaking changes that are constantly being done to the API you never know if they'll be functioning in the next week. It's part of why pop started Cosmic in the first place. The GNOME team would regularly roll breaking changes with minor point releases.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago*

    You are saying this to someone with 5 years of routinely changing major UI elements on GNOME and who has rarely had any issues with extensions breaking. Less than once a year.

    I think the difference of experience is from how much we think the UI "needs" customizing. If I wanted GNOME to look like windows, I'd probably have had that experience. But that's absolutely the furthest thing from what I'd ever want.

    And before you claim I only use one or two extensions. Nope I've used 3-7 at all times.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    I use gnome on my laptop and KDE on my desktop. I think gnome really shines when it comes to basic "business" productivity: using the internet, office suite, etc. And KDE is better for my normal use of a computer: gaming, media management, software development, etc. Obviously ymmv, but that's how it's been for me

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    I tried gnome when I first tried Linux, because everyone said how much like macOS it is.

    It is not, in fact, anything like macOS. I very quickly got pissed off with having to install extensions to match what I was used to, so gave up and left Linux alone for a few years. Now I use KDE on everything and I couldn't be happier.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    For a media PC GNOME is goated, specifically their overview! One button on the "magic remote" mouse to easily switch between desktops, windows, control basic settings, and launch other applications is awesome. Generally prefer KDE and did choose it this time when reinstalling the media/coach-gaming machine, but really wish there was anything like GNOMEs overview on KDE.

    (Yes, the Plasma overview is awesome, but you can't launch new apps from it without typing).

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I like Gnome because it's very tablet-y by default. Sure, I could make KDE look like that, but who has the time for that?! Plus, not having a desktop is the most effective way to stop me from filling the desktop with unsorted garbage

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I do. But, I recognize that preference is personal so I try not to shame people for the desktop environment they prefer.

    I’ve tried KDE, and others, multiple times in the last 20 years or so and it’s just never felt as polished to me as Gnome does. When Gnome 3 came out I spent quite a bit of time with Mate because I didn’t like the new Gnome. But eventually I got used to it and it got better.

    Typically, for new Linux users, I recommend Gnome for Mac people and KDE for Windows people.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Pop!_os has been fine for me. I'm not a tinkerer. It's a machine for a web browser and video games.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Been trying cosmic for a few weeks now, cant say its my jam. Got some hardware upgrades to do sooner or later and want to try something new and will install a new OS around then, open to recomendations.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    I'm a big fan of Fedora Kinoite, though it does make messing around with things outside of the few system directories they've marked RW pretty annoying. Trying to change things in /usr, for instance, is convoluted but not impossible, but I've had to go in there less and less over the years to the point that I don't think I've touched it directly in probably 3 or 4 years. That makes the upside of having atomic updates worth it for me.

    Now if only they could figure out how to apply updates without rebooting, that would really be something, but even then I've had a lot of bizarre issues happen from applying updates without a reboot on Fedora, so it's kinda worth it IMO.

    /rant

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    If I might ask, why isn't it your jam? Is it the layout, missing a specific feature, or something else?

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    The more recent issues have been fiddly display problems along with multiple instances Proton_GE running at the same time not being reliable as they were in the last version and more broadly it has been issues attempting to get Davinci Resolve to run correctly, but thats going to hopefully be fixed by the hardware upgrades (GPU, switching from an old rx 6700 to a lightly used 3090, there are known compatibility issues with AMD GPUs). Was thinking something Fedora or arch flavored, just for a change of scenery.

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    [–] 24 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    I doubt people with private jets use computers. Especially privately. Linux even less so.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago* (5 children)

    He hardly even had to pay for it!!!1!! 🫩

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Ummm if anything he's actually making money lol. Seriously though its crazy that Jake quit because LMG didn't want to give him a raise, then Linus buys a 5-million dollar jet.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    HE HAS A FUCKING JET NOW? WHAT THE FUCK? Tell me that it's an inside joke please. 😭

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    He chooses pop over and over again at the worst times. The beta of cosmic was buggy for his use. And he installed it in the middle of a lanparty no less. That said. He eventually switched to mint same as Luke I think. Luke who has also been using, by the way. And he and Luke have had pretty positive things to say this time. Between windows actively going to shit and Linux continuing to chug along and improve.

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  • [–] 49 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Linus: Now, I want to give Linux the fairest chance possible - That's why I'm going to fresh install it blind during a 10,000 person LAN party, in the worst networking nightmare scenario possible

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