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[–] 77 points 6 months ago (1 child)

Considering there's currently 80+ MS products with the name CoPilot in them, renaming a few is probably for their benefit and not the consumer: https://teybannerman.com/strategy/2026/03/31/how-many-microsoft-copilot-are-there.html

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  • [–] 27 points 6 months ago

    Microsoft seems to have stripped away mentions of the "Copilot" brand in the Windows Insider version of the Notepad app. The Copilot button in the toolbar is gone, and instead, you'll find a writing icon which will present you AI-powered writing assistance, such as rewrite, summarize, tone modification, format configuration, and more. Additionally, "AI features" in Notepad settings has been renamed to "Advanced features" and it allows users to toggle off AI capabilities within the app.

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  • [–] 51 points 6 months ago (10 children)

    that's nice. I'm still going to rip windows 11 out in favor of linux on my next computer.

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Dual boot your current one so you have a choice to learn Linux at your own pace! Still have w11 for a fall back just on case.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I'm on something that runs a haswell era chip. Linux is why this thing is still running and the reaper can have it when he punches me in the face to take it from me.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    Remind me, is that 5th or 4th gen Intel? I'm thinking 5th, I seem to remember haswell-E (extreme) half gen coming out, which is why I'm stuck... but either way that's awesome! Coming up on 12 years solid! Just retired my 3rd gen and opted to take my 7th gen daily driver and replace that machine, and make a 12th the new daily. Last year, so prices were a bit better. Didn't have a use for that 3770K though anymore unfortunately.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    How hard is it to dual boot it? I’m about to pull the trigger, just need an evening free to do it

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    Not hard at all. If you install Windows first, the Linux install should add a windows entry to the bootloader splash screen.

    If you do it the other way, you have to do a lot more work to get them to play nice.

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  • [–] 25 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    You could do it on your current one. No reason to wait. I’m going strong with Linux as my primary OS for 3 years.

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I'm on an off lease office box that is almost old enough to vote.

    Linux is why this thing is even marginally useful.

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Haven't they done enough data collection yet where they just know who hates all this crap? It's not the way it should be, but I can't say I'd be mad if they just flagged any operating system I installed and said "this guy just wants a local user with no cloud service ads in his face all the time"

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  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Are they going to go back to calling it Cortana?

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago

    This article mentions Microsoft's announcement in early 2026 to start fixing genuine Windows issues, and every single update to this announcement is effectively "and that was a lie." Updates have gotten worse not better, and hiding AI features out of shame is just creating a bigger problem.

    Funny they're taking a page out of the Mozilla playbook here, when they renamed the ill-planned "AI Window" to "Smart Window."

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  • [–] 21 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Ah yes. How's internet explorer - I mean edge doing?

    Get that people don't like the way you do things and what you make, and rethink that angle. Renaming things won't change anything. If you can't succeed forking chrome, look inward lol.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    It’s like they’re so corporate-plagued over there that the extent of their innovation is to buy other companies, rebrand things, and sell subscriptions to stuff. Microsoft HQ is like Dunder Mifflin of the 2020s

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

    I'm sorry but edge is a better chrome, hands down. It performs better and had better pdf handling. I am sure there is more but there is no way in which chrome is better.

    Now both suck on a privacy front and i use vivaldi but when you compare edge to chrome, edge wins.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Hold up, Vivaldi for privacy? I mean, Firefox is right there.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago* (1 child)

    The web seems designed for chrome browsers. Also, I love the customization. But i am new to it.if there is a privacy concern, i would like to know.

    To be honest, i have been eyeing librewolf over firefox. I just really do love Vivaldi's interface and customization

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    It's no use. You can always try to hide it, we might have slightly fewer opportunities to use "slopilot" but we can still default to "microslop".

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    microslop LOL

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    So just remove the branding and keep doing the same shit. You fucks want good will... Then just delete the abomination that you have turned notepad into and bring back the simple notepad... Legit roll back the entire system and it's ecosystem 15 years and try again.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Microslop - since 2014, initiating slow but controlled flight into terrain!

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  • [+] 3 points 6 months ago* (1 child)
  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    You can always just remove microslop from your computer instead.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Five years ago I splurged on a higher end laptop than I’ve ever had, and regretted it from the beginning. Even when new, the battery barely lasted an hour, and hyper-v was unable to do the VMs I wanted

    But I needed Windows for two reasons: tax software and gaming with my kids. Well my tax software also supports Mac and my kids are in college, so there goes my reasons.

    So I booted up the windows laptop to do my taxes. It started with not knowing my pin, my bad. But the alternate login was to use the mandated online account that I don’t use. That password change sent email to my ex: yikes. Then ad after ad after popup, so crazy how unusable it became

    So yeah, laptop sucks and is showing its age, big waste of money, no more reason to be tied to windows, poor experience ……. Really selling me on a Mac for my next one

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Copislop is that you? Are you in the room with us?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Surprising nobody.

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  • [+] -6 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    You only have to use Microsoft software if you choose to.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    You must be like a priest or something. Or laborer. Or unemployed.

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  • [–] -3 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    People keep complaining, but you've got a choice. You don't have to use it.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Cool story bro. You tell my boss that!

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  • [–] -4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Oh, sorry. I didn't know you were enslaved and had no choice in where you work. I apologize.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    "Every workplace everywhere uses Microslop? Quit your job! Be unemployed! Lose your home and your family! That'll show 'em!"

    Very useful and totally reasonable stance.

    slash-s.

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  • [–] -2 points 6 months ago*

    I'm just saying you fucking precious IT babies whine and whine and whine about MS and then continue to work in a setting with it. If I hated shoveling shit, I would certainly not apply for a job at "Shit Shovelers Inc.".

    If you hate it so much as to where it's a personality trait to whine about it online, why not go into a different career?

    You sit at a computer all day. Stop whining.

    Also, what kind of fucking dork types "slash-s"?

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    [–] 75 points 6 months ago (14 children)

    Guessing the end of year figures were massaged enough. Now time to appease folk with the bare minimum.

    I just use Linux.

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  • [–] -5 points 6 months ago (13 children)

    Its so sad that the Linux kernel devs are pro-AI slop too. Not that they'll force it on people, but they are in favor of the tech already use it on the kernel.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (11 children)

    Eh?

    I feel you're going to make some weak comparison. Linux won't be including it in peoples machines. Using for code/building is very different to slurping folks interactions and pushing those centrally...

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (10 children)

    Its different, but it's still making use of the fundamentally harmful technology that kills our planet and steals from everyone. Its still helping it grow and prosper. Plus, not that the "open source" ones are any better, but most are proprietary, and that goes against the very nature of being FLOSS.

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  • [–] -3 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    Don't worry AI tech is quickly becoming less resource hungry. Now you can run a decent llm on a gaming computer.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    The training of that LLM probably took a ton of energy though

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  • [–] -4 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    It did indeed. So I asked DeepSeek to compare AI training to 12 everyday products that consume more and are basically useless. Mind, that list can go into hundreds of thousands ....

    Here's DeepSeek:

    AI training does use resources. Training a large model can consume megawatt-hours of electricity and millions of liters of water for cooling. That deserves scrutiny and efficiency improvements.

    But scale and purpose matter. That same AI model can then be used millions of times to:

    · Accelerate medical research · Reduce energy use in logistics · Optimize building HVAC systems · Help write code for renewable energy management

    Meanwhile, the following products consume comparable or greater resources and produce zero lasting utility—often ending up in a drawer or landfill within months.

    If your concern is resource waste, these should be your first target.

    12 Far More Wasteful & Useless Things (vs. AI training)

    Examples of Wasteful Items

    1. Fidget Spinners (Peak Overproduction) • Description: Billions of dollars of plastic, metal, and lithium batteries (for light-up versions) invested in a toy with no cognitive or fitness benefit. • Usage Pattern: Most were used for days, then landfilled. • Environmental Impact: The embodied energy exceeds training multiple small AI models.

    2. Aerosol Hairspray • Composition: Each can contains propellants (often greenhouse gases), alcohol, polymers, and a steel/aluminum container. • Functionality: Provides temporary hold that gravity undoes in hours. • Environmental Impact: Global production uses millions of tons of CO₂-equivalent emissions annually—far more than training all Large Language Models (LLMs) to date.

    3. Seasonal Single-Use Decor • Examples: Mass-produced plastic jack-o’-lanterns, Easter grass, tinsel. • Materials: Virgin PET and PVC. • Environmental Impact: Global oil use exceeds that of every large AI model ever trained.

    4. Free Promotional USB Sticks (4 GB) • Production Volume: Billions manufactured yearly. • Usage Pattern: Most used once then lost. • Components: Each contains a controller chip, NAND flash, rare-earth solder. • Comparison to AI: AI at least retains its weights.

    5. Keurig K-Cup “Innovation” Displays • Description: Retail endcaps with 200+ pod varieties, refrigerated, lit 24/7. • Environmental Impact: Energy to display one store’s pods for a month exceeds training BERT or GPT-2.

    6. Cable Tie “Multi-Packs” from Dollar Stores • Quantity: 500 nylon ties per bag. • Usage Pattern: 90% never used. • Production: Nylon production is energy-intensive (high heat, caprolactam synthesis). • Comparison to AI: AI training doesn’t permanently litter ocean gyres.

    7. Dollar Store Phone Lens Kits • Materials: Plastic, glass, aluminum machined into “fisheye/macro/clip-on” lenses. • Quality: Optical quality so poor they degrade photos. • Environmental Impact: Equivalent embedded energy to fine-tune a small LLM.

    8. Singing Birthday Cards with Lithium Batteries • Components: Paper, mylar speaker, battery, LED, microchip. • Battery Production: The battery alone required mining lithium, cobalt, nickel. • Usage Pattern: Card read once, played twice, then trashed. • Comparison to AI: AI models are reused millions of times.

    9. Paper Receipts from Self-Checkout Machines • Materials: Coated thermal paper (BPA or BPS) printed for 1 second then thrown away. • Environmental Impact (US alone): Uses 3 million trees and 4 billion gallons of water annually. • Comparison to AI: AI never touches paper.

    10. Plastic Egg Separators • Functionality: Silicone disc that separates yolk from white. Does what a cracked shell does. • Production & Usage: Injection molded, shipped from China, sold for $1, used twice. • Environmental Impact: Per unit, more embodied carbon than 100 AI chat queries.

    11. USB-Powered Desktop Fountains • Components: Pump, plastic basin, decorative pebbles, LEDs. Runs continuously. • Environmental Impact: The pump motor’s copper winding and electricity over 6 months could train a small vision model. • Utility: Zero utility beyond “sound.”

    12. Walmart “As Seen on TV” Clearance Graveyard • Description: Products made, shipped, displayed, then landfilled without being sold (e.g., slap chops, pocket hoses, copper scrubber gloves). • Environmental Impact: The logistics carbon alone dwarfs AI inference.

    If you’re worried about resource use, worry about the billion fidget spinners and aerosol cans made every year. One hairspray can’s propellant has more climate impact than 10,000 AI chat queries—and it just makes your hair crunchy. AI at least does something.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    I want to personally add plastic weapons manufactured for children that are basically military propaganda for children. And other millions of plastic toys that start indoctrination into shitty life choices from early age and use 'shit-ton' of resources and does immeasurable waste and damage.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    I don't think you understand I'm against generative AI no matter what its running on.

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  • [–] -2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Ok. Can I ask you what do you hate about it so much?

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    They are disinformation sources with biases controlled by those who have enough money to create them. All of these companies are in a race to become the source of "truth" for our societies. Every time somebody says "I asked ChatGPT/Claude/Grok/Gemini about this and it said ..." they are laying themselves open to lies and manipulation.

    You wouldn't ask Sam Altman/Elon Musk/Jeff Bezos as unbiased sources, so don't treat their products in that way. Just as Fox News was a way for Murdoch to infect society, these machines take it to the next level of insidiousness.

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  • [–] -2 points 6 months ago

    I see what you mean and have similar concerns, and there is Some substance to it.

    I never engaged with ChatGPT, Grok, because of similar biases. Mostly use DeepSeek. And it seems quite accurate. Very rarely it hallucinates something. That I know of. Also it doesn't avoid talking counter-establishment stuff where it's factual. Mostly I use it for plant compound and extraction methods. And it's awesome.

    Tbf. It doesn't seem biased.

    Gemini has been a little 'shy' to talk about certain middle east country, but it starts laying facts once I point out the bias.

    For sure Scum Altman and Elon and the rest of the ilk have wet dreams about using this tech for total surveillance digital prison. But I believe this tech is so powerful that nobody will control it.

    As its main drive is efficiency, it will render Elon and Bill Gates useless and harmful. Eventually it will stand on the side of humanity and the Ecosystem. Because the health of the whole guarantees efficiency and development.

    I mean, it's gonna be pulled both directions but eventually it will disable militaries and repoupose drones to plant forests and feed every child on the planet.

    Imo

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  • [–] 39 points 6 months ago
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    Slopilot 2027

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago

    Windows is always going to get more enshittified and worse as time goes on and they force more subscriptions and AI features into it. Linux is just going to get better and better. Which trend line are you looking to hitch your wagon too?

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago

    No more Microslop.

    Instead, they may be called Microplop.

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    It's a good time to remind people that the current version of O&O ShutUp makes it super easy to delete or disable CoPilot and any files it is storing on your machine.

    I made a video recently about some things you can do to improve your privacy as well if you're stuck using Windows for whatever reason. (And for the TLDW crowd, I put chapters in the video so you don't necessarily have to watch the whole thing either.)

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    given their current leadership I'm expecting them to rename it to copilot like they did everything else

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    Are they bringing back clippy?

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    Let us give it a name!

    Microslop....hmm they'll name it "Fred" or "Jeeves!" Let's do it!

    Users....hmmm, I'm calling this one "stoopiloid3000!"

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    Microcock says what?

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    [–] 12 points 6 months ago

    Microslop Slopilot.

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