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[–] 126 points 6 months ago (6 children)

There was already a bunker under the East Wing. If Trump chose to bulldoze it, that’s his own doing.

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  • [–] 53 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Yeah sounds like this is the perfect time for a missile attack. God damn he’s stupid

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    lets see if it can withstand a MT warhead.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    Look, there's got to be a rational explanation for this. Have you considered the old East Wing bunker might have just been haunted as all fuck? Who knows what horrible atrocities past presidents committed down in that dungeon! Who knows how many hookers Nixon tortured to death down there. How many old captured Nazis did Eisenhower personally flay alive in that basement? How many girls did Clinton simply have disappeared down there? That placed was probably cursed long before Trump got there. The only way to get the bad juju out was to completely tear it down to bare soil. It's no good as a defense bunker if you get torn apart by ghosts when you try to seek shelter there!

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  • [–] 74 points 6 months ago

    well, now, I've never been more against it

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  • [–] 67 points 6 months ago* (9 children)

    As if we needed any further confirmation that the bunker beneath it was the actually important part of the project.

    (Can we please ensure that the bunker is stocked with at least one Luger pistol? For tradition's sake.)

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Give them a Nambo instead. They don't deserve the build quality of Luger.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Slow acting but irreversible poison.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    The Nambu has a notoriously weak cartridge. With a skull like his he'd be liable to botch it badly and probably wake up with a full diaper and a headache.

    Not sure if that'd be better or worse than the alternative really.

    Also contrary to popular belief they're generally really well made unless it's an extremely late one. 8x22 is just really really weak.

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  • [–] 66 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Bunkers don’t need ballrooms.

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  • [–] 41 points 6 months ago

    Sounds like quite the waste of money then.

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  • [–] 39 points 6 months ago

    "I can't be expected to live in this glass house. Not after all these rocks I've been throwing."

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Imagine being the poor bastards stuck in there with him. The smell alone ... !

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago

    It won't even be started before Trump pops his clogs.

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  • [–] 15 points 6 months ago

    Fuck that. President starts a war that results in missiles falling on DC he can go down with the ship.

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    As if there aren't dozens of steps before another country strikes upon the U.S.

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  • [–] 20 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    He's not worried about another country. He's worried about a well-earned military coup.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago

    Or civil war and/or federal dissolutionment, if those happened it's almost garunteed federal control of DC would fall almost immediately. He would need a bunker to hide in for possibly weeks in such a case. Assuming he isn't killed immediately.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    So the bunker is deeper than that Iranian nuclear facility?

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Add the cost of ripping it up to the cost of restoring the white house for the next admin. Start with restoring the rose garden and getting the vegas decorations out.

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    Take it out of his fortune. Triple damages.

    And that's just for starters. He's going to pay to rebuild Iran out of his own pocket.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    And compensate the Epstein victims and/or their families (whichever applies).

    Although he can share the bill with other Epstein collaborators and clients on that one. Nationalise their entire estate - or whatever similar procedure would make sense here.

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I'd argue that Trump being hit by a missile attack would IMPROVE the USA national security.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago*

    Others are more sanguine. Paul Eckloff, a former Secret Service agent who served on Trump's detail and previously on Barack Obama's, argued that what has emerged in court so far does not amount to a 'genuine security breach,' saying operationally sensitive information remains classified.

    He was more worried about the practical effect of having a giant dig site inside a secure perimeter. An open pit next to the Executive Residence, he said, inevitably alters the calculus for agents tasked with keeping intruders out and the president alive. 'The longer this is an active construction site, the more concerning it is from a general security posture,' Eckloff said.

    I don't think it matters much from a national security standpoint, specifically because of this:

    Judge Leon has not hidden his scepticism. At an earlier hearing, he dismissed the idea that Trump's safety required the ballroom to go ahead, describing the 'large hole' next to the White House as a 'problem of the President's own making.'

    We don't protect the President because the President is some sort of exceptional, irreplaceable figure. The President is just some guy. If Trump gets shot, then Vance gets dropped into the slot and things keep on trucking. Hell, personally I think that the US would very probably be better-off with just about any other major politician at the wheel.

    We protect the President because we don't want it to be viable to coerce the President via physical threat. We don't want a country to say "do X on Policy Y or maybe we kill you" and have that be something that can affect the President's policy-making.

    In this case, Trump decided that he was going to go right ahead and create the security risk, so he's probably not especially concerned about it. If he wanted it to stop, which presumably he would if he were worried about being killed, he could stop it. Ergo, cocercion isn't a factor.

    If Trump decides tomorrow that he wants to go wingsuit BASE jumping or something, I mean, okay, sure, whatever. The Secret Service can just sit around and munch popcorn and watch him face-plant into a hillside, as far as I'm concerned. The problem isn't the President dying, but him being affected by threats of him being killed.

    That's also why we have lifetime Secret Service protection for the President after he leaves office. It's not like he's being President then, not like we'd lose whatever he's bringing to the table. But you don't want other parties to be able to threaten the guy in office with retribution after he leaves office.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago

    I am seriously not the least bit concerned.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Maybe be the kind of person who doesn't fear people shooting missiles at them.

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Will this $600m ballroom be finished before the end of president?

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  • [–] 26 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    The 1.6 billion ballroom will probably not be finished, but the money is somehow gone.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    I dunno, 2.2 billion for a ballroom seems like a great deal.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah, almost a steal at 3.6 billion. I can’t believe they got such a good deal. They’re practically saving trillions.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    Maybe if you were decent person you could have not caused people to want to lob missiles at you.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    you guys are trying to protect them?

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Leave it a fucking hole in the ground.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Will it protect him from the Hauge?

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    The Trump-Epstein Scrotum of Terra-Interred Security, or TESTIS.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    The other option was for Him to stop being a douche but that is not possible

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Nah, Im not worried about missiles at all. Do it ... I dare you.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Build it, let him tour it, then lock it...and toss away the key

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Donald...I have a cask of very special wine I'd like you to try. It's an Amontillado. Do come down into the bunker and have a taste.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    Aww, come on. Amontillado is fine, I love the classic approach. But it's just not appropriate for Trump. If you want to write Trump to have a poetic end, he needs to go out like Manius Aquillius. Maybe in a modern version, Trump in a bone-headed move decides to personally go to Tehran to pound his fist on the table and make his silly demands. The Iranians ultimately end up executing him by pouring molten gold down his throat to punish him for his greed.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Not that I give trump credit for any kind of forward thinking, but could this plan been made by someone smarter than him to bulldoze the current bunker so that he could claim that taxpayers need to build a bunker at MaraLago?

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    Oh I have no doubt he's had a mar-a-lago bunker complex on his wishlist for a while now, useful for sorting stolen documents to make a buck off ... perhaps when 2028 looms closer and he is certain of an incoming win suddenly construction will begin at mar-a-lago ...

    Ofcourse his trusted adage goes: "it's all paid for by private billionaire money, so it is mine to do with as I please, mine! My toys!"

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    We could have a referendum on how important it is to taxpayers to protect Trump from missiles. Maybe a simultaneous one for shooting one at him.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I think the hamburgers are more likely to end him than missiles.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    Reminds me of that Brecht quote.

    Some party hack decreed that the people
    had lost the government's confidence
    and could only regain it with redoubled effort.
    If that is the case, would it not be be simpler,
    If the government simply dissolved the people
    And elected another?

    Bertolt Brecht

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    It’s kind of difficult to tell what is really going on with the ballroom. It could very well be that the government has planned an upgrade for years and Trumps ball room is the perfect cover, so he may or may not be “playing along”.

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago

    If that were the case, they wouldn't have just gone ahead and started bulldozing willy nilly. They could have at least said it was for security reinforcements on the White House "and we may as well build a ballroom at the same time."

    I'm sure it was the opposite. Trump wanted a ballroom, and they figured while the White House is half blown up, they may as well build a bunker.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    That is a possibility. Maybe it was something they had wanted to do, but it was a project mired in red tape and complexity? Like maybe they had planned to try to do it without demolishing the East Wing, trying to do it in place? Then Trump's like "fuck it, we'll do it live" and just orders the whole thing demolished to make it cheaper? IDK.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Well how else will he wine and dine the new Iranian leaders?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    Isn't that what Raven Rock is for?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Maybe we could reshape the ballroom to look like a bone spur?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    Includes an EMP proof bar and a leaded shielded VIP room.

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