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[–] 67 points 7 months ago

send these bible-thumping chucklefucks to the front

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  • [–] 60 points 7 months ago (9 children)

    Doesn’t that story also include the Antichrist who’s “charismatic” and fools them all into fealty to him?

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    Yes. Also, giant man-faced scorpions wearing solid gold hats will climb out of the Earth to eat the unfaithful.

    UNCANNY FORESIGHT

    (not a joke, really says that. tax free. They don't have to pay taxes for this shit)

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  • [–] 54 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    If they really think this is the End Of Time, why aren't they out there on the front lines?

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  • [–] 17 points 7 months ago*

    This is why learning about religions is important...

    Not so much to "learn" from the religion, but to learn how that religions follows tend to think.

    For this brand of Christian extremism, they're trying to make the rapture happen. Because that happens at the start of Armageddon, they're trying to start Armageddon.

    To do so:

    1. The area that is modern day Israel needs to be ethnostate controlled by the Jewish faith.

    2. They need to enter a religious war against all their neighbors, none of which can be Jewish nations.

    3. The Jewish nation gets wiped off the map by "heatens", meaning not Jews or Christians.

    4. Everyone the right specific flavor of Christian (extremists Protestants) gets called up to heaven, and it's heavily implied they will get to watch everyone else suffer for enterity on "hell on earth" like some fucked version of Squid Game.

    That's why I fully believe trump was manipulated into starting this, everyone in on this scheme told him it would be an easy win and to kick up shit, knowing it won't.

    And once it's "hot" enough over there, they're gonna get trump to do a full withdraw with no notice to cause chaos. It's likely what happened with Afghanistan too.

    The end goal is Israel being wiped out, they just had to make Israel feel like they had enough back up to start wars with all their neighbors at once.

    Like, their "Armageddon clock" is seconds to midnight, and I wouldn't put it best them to have trump toss a nuke on his way out to ensure Israel gets fully wiped to fufil the prophecy.

    But back to the beginning:

    We desperately need to solve the religious extremist issue, and just getting rid of trump wot solve shit. Everyone will just go back to ignoring the real shit till they try again.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago*

    They don’t, or at least the pedo in chief doesn’t. He just knows that he can sell it to his base. Plus he has stacked the cabinet with true believers and those that stand to profit from all this shit. Just more grift enablement, then again, most religion is.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Say what you want about the crusades, but at least the king and his knights all rode off to war personally.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    My favorite story from the Crusades.

    The Europeans landed and a huge mob of locals came running at them. Naturally the knights killed all the 'infidels.'

    Later, they learned that the 'infidels' were local Christians who were coming to greet them and offer support.

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    [–] 43 points 7 months ago

    These people are a danger to the rest of us. They are mentally unfit and lack basic decency.

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  • [–] [S] 78 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Religion, too, is a weapon. What manner of weapon is religion when it becomes the government?

    -Edric, Guild Navigator - Dune Messiah

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  • [–] 16 points 7 months ago

    The mechanism of religion as a weapon never changes: controlling the public through fear and using said fear to extract power and wealth.

    If you really want to understand power, religion and wealth one need look no further than Henry VIII's Tudor court and Thomas Cromwell with his scheme to rob all the sacred religious Abbeys of England and take their wealth establishing a brand new made up religion. It's the point in history where the veneer of religion was stripped away and left in its place were the people who had been using it casting all airs aside and start directly controlling people by simply killing and torturing enough of them.

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  • [–] 36 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    Far right leaders want to see trump ignite armageddon, making him the antichrist.

    If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he will be tormented with fire and sulfur." Revelations 14:9-11

    The mark on the forehead says “MAGA”

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    It's kind of amazing, but these religious whackjobs may have a point. Current events are following the Armageddon myth almost perfectly:

    Could American Evangelicals Spot the Antichrist? Here Are the Biblical Predictions:

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    What this shows me is that the fascist playbook has been the same for literally thousands of years. Descriptions of ancient despots apply equally to the modern-day ones.

    That, and numerology is completely bankrupt. You can manipulate almost anything to fit a specific numeric scheme if you want to.

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  • [–] 31 points 7 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 22 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Yep. Because the crazies are gagging for Christ to return.
    Their whole grift, their raison d’etre is “god is coming, pray harder, and give me your money “

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  • [–] 29 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Hegseth already thought this when he got the job.

    He’s insane and in charge enough without religious leaders anyway.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    He's a cynical piece of shit, he doesn't believe in anything.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    No, that's Vance. Hegseth is the one with the christofascist tattoos; you don't have those carved onto you out of cynicism.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    Yeah, I have a feeling Hegseth is either a true believer, or state mandated rehab brainwashed him into it.

    Or drunk visions talk to him.

    I don’t think Vance believes anything he says past what will keep him in power.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    I think it is mostly cynicsm, that he doesn't actually believe that nonsense, and that he's playing those that do, and tattoos are a part of that. Guy was a fox news host, no way he's a true believer.

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  • [–] 23 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Christian Zionism is out of control, and a thread to modern society.

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  • [–] 22 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Imagine believing that your all powerful god is so weak that he has to wait on you to start the end of the world. Pathetic.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    It's even more comical than that. Their own scriptures say that nobody will know the time of the end of the world. "I will come as a thief in the night." But in their arrogance, they think they can force God's hand.

    Fundies never fail to escalate the stupidity and to stir up shit for the rest of us.

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  • [–] 21 points 7 months ago

    The crusades. But with nukes.

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  • [–] 21 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Religion is the greatest threat to peace and human well-being.

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  • [–] 20 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Make sure their children and/or grandchildren serve in the US infantry. Frontline duty only.

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  • [–] 20 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    These dipshits always see everything in such stupid terms.

    I imagine a future where such people are sentenced to be put into VR where they could live out their sick eschatological fantasies. That's unless some kind of therapy doesn't come online for such people, as I think they have a (probably as of yet named or recognized) mental disorder

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  • [–] 19 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    US was justifying its genocides in the middle-east by "they are religious extremists." How much of it was projection?

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  • [–] 18 points 7 months ago

    It's wild people are just realizing this literally decades into this far right group grooming jr politicians and incoming officers at every military academy...

    It's like looking at your house on fire, flames leaping from every opening, and being concerned if your pillow is going to smell like smoke tonight.

    Yeah, that would suck to smell smoke all night.

    But the bigger issue is it smells like smoke, because it's been reduced to ash.

    Military academies (school for officers):

    https://truthout.org/articles/underground-group-of-cadets-says-air-force-academy-controlled-by-evangelicals/

    Politicians:

    https://www.peoplefor.org/rightwingwatch/post/the-family-explores-secretive-group-focused-on-building-networks-of-power

    I'm not saying them pressuring trump isn't bad, I'm saying it's infinitly worse that over the last 30 years they've installed their people and had them recruiting peers the whole way.

    It's not just "extremist Protestantism" it's the verbatim 1920 "second wave kkk" plan:

    https://billofrightsinstitute.org/essays/the-ku-klux-klan-in-the-1920s/

    And that's not the end game, that was what in sports is referred to as "rebuild years" where the focus was on growing membership and distancing from the hands on violence of lynching to systemic violence perpetuated thru legal but highly unethical means.

    People really need to start learning this shit, it's honestly the same playbooks, we can easily tell where they're going, we just have to actually learn history.

    The bad news is, we missed the off ramp they took last time:

    Just as quickly as the Klan rose in membership and influence, however, it collapsed. There were many reasons. Some members were embarrassed by the organization’s bigotry, some by its silly regalia and ceremonies, or its money grubbing. Others were repulsed by its violence or its hypocrisy.

    The Klan’s most fatal weakness was rooted in its poor leadership. The organization claimed to stand for morality, but its leaders provided the worst possible examples. For example, Edward Y. Clarke and Mary Elizabeth Tyler, the two Atlanta-based publicists who masterminded the Klan’s skyrocketing rise, were soon revealed to have been arrested in 1919 for sexual impropriety and possession of illegal alcohol. Then, with millions of dollars rolling in, infighting for control grew fierce, and Klan founder and Grand Wizard Col. William Simmons found himself ousted by Houston dentist Hiram W. Evans. Evans had allied himself with perhaps the Klan’s most successful personality, Indiana Grand Dragon David C. Stephenson. Stephenson, a former Socialist and a failed Democratic congressional candidate, had quickly engineered a Klan takeover of Indiana’s Republican Party. Clearly the most powerful man in Indiana, Stephenson (who said, “I am the law in Indiana”) viewed himself as a future senator and perhaps even president of the United States.

    In April 1925, however, the 33-year-old Stephenson forced his aide, 28-year-old Madge Oberholtzer, onto a Chicago-bound train, where he assaulted and raped her. She attempted suicide, but her death a few weeks later was ruled to have followed from infection of the wounds Stephenson had inflicted on her. A jury found Stephenson guilty of rape, kidnapping, and second-degree murder.

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  • [–] 15 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    If they are so desperate to die, they can do it by themselves and leave the rest of us out of it.

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  • [–] 15 points 7 months ago

    People like this used to be institutionalized

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  • [–] 15 points 7 months ago

    “It’ll happen this time, I’m sure of if guys.”

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    It is so unlike for far-right religious leaders to side with pedophiles, I am very surprised.

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    … And it gives them all raging hard-ons.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago

    Thats the entire cause of the world's pains. Ignorant religious fools calling every conflict the end. If only it was the end of THEM, we could all rest easier

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago

    MAGA is a pedofascist death cult.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago

    Religiosity has been in decline in the US, hopefully the ultra performative sect that's influencing him makes it happen even faster.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    Well if Iran has nothing to lose and the US thinks it’s the end times this is going to end so well…

    so…. The Crusades 2: Electric Boogaloo

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    I should have paid more attention and been more vocal. Every time those people came to my door telling me how everything was better when "god chose kings and leaders", I should have had facts to refute them. Hopefully I will be able to in the future.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    I don't think facts would have helped you. This isn't something they reasoned their way into. You're not going to reason them out.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Can I make them question their reality?

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    If you invite them in and have an honest conversation with them they leave and never come back.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago*

    A few years ago, I lived in a grand old house in a nice bit of California and we'd occasionally get Mormon missionaries knocking on our door. One time, a couple of them caught me while I was off work and relaxing. It was a boiling hot day, they looked like they were suffering, so I invited them in and offered them some herbal iced tea and homemade fig bars (my wife's a bit of a hippie, what can I say?). We talked a fair bit about religion, but I'm a non-believer, so that could only go so far. I have a policy of not trying to convince people to become an atheist, but if they ask what I believe, I'll tell them. These young guys were recruited in Provo, suited up and sent off to Sodom-by-the-Bay to have doors slammed in their faces. They were naive and were very polite, nice guys.

    To their credit, when I'd be in town after that, if I saw one ride by on his bike, he'd always wave and say hi, despite the fact that I'm an evil infidel.

    Pro tip: don't try that with Jehova's Witnesses, they're paranoid, hyper-aggressive and, in my experience, devoid of manners.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    I'm pretty sure that's how they justified the Crusades.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    End Times, yes. But for the "US Empire".

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    “Hamanda acka acka racka deda backa sanda acka ambo osa cacka reeté eké banda acka riki dibi asha daaah”

    • Paula White Cain, Senior Advisor to the White House Faith Office
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    Look I’ve given you two sources, I’m not sure how much clearer I can make it for you. If you dispute the points that are being made, make a substantive argument.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago*

    Is this modern crusade three or four? I am losing track

    The next logical step is obviously to kill their leadership, this worked very well in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Yugoslavia. Bastions of peace to this very day

    Oops I have had a stroke

    p.s. free one-way ticket for every Abrahamic faithful to the holy land, includes AR-15 and jug of gatorade.

    Best money ever spent I tell you what

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    Further evidence, if any more were needed, that these pig-ignorant sisterfucking hucksters should be taxed for interfering in politics, and better yet, should be institutionalized.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I wonder if that's the key to Trump still being so popular among Protestant Christians after so much proof he's as evil as it gets? That they see the only way out of the incredible mess the GOP (primarily) has made of the country and world is for the "End Times" to arrive, condemning everyone in the world except themselves and rapturing their gullible asses out of trouble.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    There's a name badge in that picture so I looked it up. Apparently Alveda King, MLK's niece, is on the board of "Black Voices for Trump". MLK must be rolling in his grave.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alveda_King

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    And he's just the addled shitbag to make it happen.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    Far-right religious leaders should all be used for chum

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    MAGA and religious zealots are like two peas in a pod, ready to use fear, disinformation and wealth for their purpose of subjugation, oppression and even genocide.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    trump won't see god in Iran but he will try to use him for his own advantage.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    Oh god the news is just permanent satire

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    My hand will be against the prophets who see false visions and utter lying divinations

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    'the end is near' is key to the 10% tithe grift. same since i can remember. believer; what need money for, here.

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    [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    So happy to send men and women to die and to kill innocent people. Let's give these proud Americans some guns, a tin hat and a water bottle and drop them into Iran! They may need a lot of bullet-proof suncream too.

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