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[–] 83 points 7 months ago (9 children)

I'm just waiting for the world leaders, one after another, to cut all ties with both these entities. Will they dare? Will they form a new alliance? Will the world unite against the true tyrants? Stay tuned.

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  • [–] 26 points 7 months ago

    The Israel's "anti-jew/antisemitic" rhetoric only works with the west, so it could take a very long time for leaders with bigger balls to just say "that's not gonna work anymore". USA is currently on the path to self isolation.

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  • [–] 17 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    It's already happening, but it's in usually a slow disentangling of payment systems, software, tech, ... Just cut and run would be very damaging. And like many things in politics it's often two steps forward one step back.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Yes I know it takes time, but hopefully it's done while trump is still alive.

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  • [–] 40 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    I'd like a list of all UN resolutions that (almost only) the USA & Israel vetoed, pretty please.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Well, a particularly jarring one is the USA's refusal to ratify the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child.

    Everyone else, including Israel, has ratified it, except them.

    Because they want child labour, and to be able to keep executing children, and bombing schools, apparently.

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  • [–] 53 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    If the idiots can't see the trend yet, will they ever?

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  • [–] 23 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    To the idiots, the trend is that the US and Israel are the only great countries on earth.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    "Best country with best president thats why we need to get him to run a third term"

    Saw that yesterday. Holy f.....

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  • [–] 39 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Nestlé, claiming to be the country of Hydra, claimed a cultural and historic right to all the world's fresh water, stating that it was promised to them 3000 years ago.

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  • [–] 38 points 7 months ago

    Oh the two war criminal nations? No shit? The two humanitarian violators? You don't say?

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  • [–] 16 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    I know at least one of those countries is way overfed.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    I'm pretty sure that the privileged are well fed around the world.

    Approximately 13.5 percent of U.S. households — more than 47 million Americans, including nearly 14 million children — struggle to put food on the table. Here the measure of hunger is “food insecurity” — an ongoing uncertainty of where the next meal will come from. More than 1 in 5 U.S. children are at risk of hunger (1 in 3 among Black and Latino(a) children). To the surprise of many, most Americans (51.4 percent) will live in poverty at some point before age 65.

    https://www.bread.org/hunger-explained/hunger-in-the-u-s/

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  • [–] 25 points 7 months ago

    The US and Israel at this point are just the axis of evil to the rest of the world.

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  • [–] 21 points 7 months ago (1 child)
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    Living in the US as somebody who pays attention to the world and cares about people and stuff is absolutely surreal sometimes.

    It's especially so when you're one of the last people to have had an analog childhood (The Oregon Trail generation represent) so all the adults you knew as a child grew up in the post-ww2 prosperity and genuinely believed all the American exceptionalism stuff.

    The only thing it seems we are best at is striking the perfect evil balance where I can't decide if it feels more Black Mirror or more Hunger Games.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Do you mean Gen X, Millennials, or Xennials when you say last to have analog?

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    I'm sure my anecdote applies to people from all three, and even to some of the boomers that didn't ingest as much lead and have kept their head on straight.

    When I mentioned The Oregon Trail generation though, that's usually an Xennial label.

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  • [–] 20 points 7 months ago

    I am shocked. Shocked!

    Well not that shocked.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago

    There's nothing mild about the fury this inspires in me.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    The fuck is wrong with US???

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I think it would actually be easier to list what is NOT wrong with the US lol, cos that woulld make for a very short list lol

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  • [–] 24 points 7 months ago

    The USA is a shit hole country with a shit hole leader

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  • [–] 17 points 7 months ago

    A slave empire can't function without extreme deprivation.

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  • [–] 21 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    But the resolution passed anyway, which is why world hunger has disappeared.

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  • [–] -3 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    These resolutions are designed to make some countries look bad. Somewhere in the small print there's a point unacceptable for the US and Israel, so they vote against and newspapers world-wide can report on how US and Israel alone blocked the end of famine.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Ok where is it here exactly I'll wait

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    I think i ahould preface the following because it sounds more neutral than I meant it to. TBC I condone neither of these positions, nor do I mean this to be argumentative with your possition, but rather collaborative:

    I suspect the objection is to the calling out of / reminder that destruction of water facilities as a war crime, which seems to be something both sides have done/ been threatening in the Iran war, as well as the call out to allow UN/ other humanitarian aid groups unfettered access in warzones. Which seems like it conflicts with Israel's contentions with UNRWA.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    [...] the resolution also contains many unbalanced, inaccurate, and unwise provisions the United States cannot support. This resolution does not articulate meaningful solutions for preventing hunger and malnutrition or avoiding their devastating consequences.

    The United States is concerned that the concept of “food sovereignty” could justify protectionism or other restrictive import or export policies [...]

    We also do not accept any reading of this resolution or related documents that would suggest that States have particular extraterritorial obligations arising from any concept of a “right to food,” which we do not recognize and has no definition in international law.

    https://usun.usmission.gov/explanation-of-vote-of-the-third-committee-adoption-of-the-right-to-food-resolution/

    tl;dr:

    1. The USA doesn't think the resolution actually does anything useful, even if it supports the intention
    2. The USA, the largest exporter of food, is concerned how the resolution might impact food exports
    3. The USA doesn't recognize the imposition of legal obligations to act outside of its own territory
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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    Keep waiting, reading useless and pointless UN resolutions is not a hobby I have. I'm not against the UN, I think it's a needed organization, but this kind of pointless resolutions only makes it look bad and only feeds anti-UN positions within its biggest sponsor and host: the US.

    So good luck with pointless resolutions aimed at the guy paying for the circus..

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  • [–] 31 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I'm starting to think that Israel is where most of the evil in the world comes from.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago

    And when that fertilizer shortage and soybean bullshit causes farmers to have a terrible harvest, and the U.S. asks for help from the world, I hope the world will reference this vote when they tell us no.

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  • [–] 38 points 7 months ago (10 children)

    Yea, and the US "vote" is actually a veto. The US needs to lose its UN veto power because of shit like this.

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  • [–] 22 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    No single country should have veto power in the first place.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    The problem with this is that it's either veto through vote or veto through force. The US can easily flip the table and walk out to try to enforce whatever it wants but that's obviously bad for world peace so this is its ineffective but less destructive compromise.

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  • [–] 18 points 7 months ago* (4 children)
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    Right, and the dumb part now is that nobody in the world expects this to mean shit. Even if it would have been unanimous.

    You don't solve world hunger with UN votes. You solve it with technological and economical advancement, by advancing women's rights and with better access to contraceptives.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    Gee I wonder what would it take to solve world hunger. Maybe a comprehensive strategic plan that changes minds of decision makers and pressures them through diplomacy and negotiations. Perhaps we could pool resources at the same time to distribute food to the countries most affected by sitemic historical injustice. Someone should manage that complex of a problem. Maybe a neutral governing body that ensures it's well managed and countries pay something up front towards this problem. We should call it the league of countries against hunger, or the coalition of groups of people. I don't know, I'm bad at naming things.

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Yes, but the US no vote was an automatic veto. They had to remove anything that affected the US and then get all the other UN members to vote on it just to get it to pass. Any P5 nation with veto power can pull the teeth out of a UN resolution.

    A "no" vote from a P5 is always a veto. When any of the P5 vote “no” in the Council, a resolution cannot move forward. Council members can, however, resolve their differences and propose new drafts for a vote by the Council. They can also call on a vote from the wider UN membership – the 193 Member States that make up the General Assembly (GA).

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    No, it's not. Your confusion probably stems from the fact that the US has veto power over UN Security Council Resolutions. It cannot veto Resolutions passed by the General Assembly. This was a General Assembly Resolution.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Honestly, the UN has been a farce for a long time because of this exact issue. If a handful of countries have veto power then the whole point of the group was moot from the beginning.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    Veto power is supposed to represent nuclear power. The logic is that it is way better for a country to veto a resolution than it bombing another country because they got pissy.

    I always remind people that the UN's mission is not to solve all the world's problems, but to stop countries from tearing each other apart and avoiding all out nuclear mutual annihilation. So far, it has succeeded.

    I also hate that it has no teeth against modern issues, like genocides of non nation state peoples. But genocide didn't even exist as a concept when it was created. The concept was coined by a Jewish legalist who scaped the holocaust.

    BTW, same dude hated the guts of Zionist israel and warned that an ethnostate would lead to genocide eventually. He was 100% right.

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago

    Israel: we disagree because we don't believe our enemies deserve human rights.

    USA: yeah, and can't profit off of people or oppress foreigners if you guarantee people food, either.

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  • [–] 17 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Israel will be responsible for a second holocaust against them. And this time no one will help.

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  • [–] 19 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I always thought it rather odd the country that gained its (unofficial) statehood because of a genocide of its own people have actively participated in committing one themselves. All by playing an oppressed victim.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago

    This is what nationalism always leads to - exclusion and genocide. Even if it's founding myth was resistance against those things.

    The nation state is the greatest tool of oppression known to man.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago

    Insert the smuggie of "Any UN vote ever"

    "Insert good thing here" Everyone else: Yes US and Israel: No

    God we are the worst fucking countries

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    US really trying its best to be the worst. Land of the expensive and unfree.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    ok so WW3 is going to be 3 fronts now is it?? fitting if not definitely infuriating

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  • [–] 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

    The article would be better if it linked to the reasons for the no votes and critiqued them. Otherwise, it's just low effort outrage bait. To be clear, I don't think the no votes were justified. I just don't like low effort outrage bait.

    Edit: Not https://geneva.usmission.gov/2017/03/24/u-s-explanation-of-vote-on-the-right-to-food/

    https://web.archive.org/web/20211127052643/https://usun.usmission.gov/explanation-of-vote-of-the-third-committee-adoption-of-the-right-to-food-resolution/

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    There will always be nitpicks whenever the resolution is not completely meaningless and devoid of any actionable steps. If the vote was started again just stating that nations are generally against starvation, then I'm sure the US would vote yes.

    But maybe not!

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    Of course. Evil shits want everyone to starve to death so they can steal their lands

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    This is FALSE! Israel and (Israel) is ONE Country!

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Isn't also North Korea in the UN? Imagine North Korea does something better than the US lol.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    The US has done things far worse than what North Korea has done. Every ten years your "democracy" bombs another country.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    The US is the most murderous country to other countries in history. North Korea is trying to be the most murderous to its own citizens but it's got a lot of work to do to catch up to Russia and China.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    The MAGA and Likud shit stains are sick and disgusting.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago*

    I wouldn't get to bent out of shape over a substack post

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Ragebait. This happened five years ago, as stated in the article. Why is this being brought up again?

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (3 children)

    Please reply - what other things are a human right?

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