In the age of MAGA it's hard to feel proud of being American.

Exactly the problem unfortunately. It's extremely demoralizing. I'm still proud, like I said the largest protest in our history, I've never seen more Americans this motivated before, but I hope the organizers plan to do something. They don't care about protests. They just let them go knowing everyone will go back to work the next morning. However, if they go too far the propaganda machine will simply pick up and say whatever it needs to and people eat it up happily. My uncle steadfastly believes that the majority of protesters are in fact "paid actors". Millions of paid actors. Billions of dollars spent on it obviously.

That makes sense, they seemed mad for about a day about the gas prices and now I guess they just grabbed a bottle of lube instead of demanding it stop.

Meanwhile I actually know personally TWO people who went out and bought EVs! In car centric transit deserts where they have to drive. Both had some form of "I've been debating a new car for a while and this made my decision not to use gas". So a very thin silver lining that people are at least thinking about it.

Yeah, all these Americans were just minding their own business, basing their whole economy on pillaging oil from any part of the world they can, doing nothing wrong of course though.

So innocent, just driving around in their pickup trucks blasting propaganda from their radios, then rushing home to watch more on their television.

Can't we just leave the Americans alone so they can pretend they aren't the shittiest group of people on earth?

Thats mostly due to lack of ability, not lack of desire. Do you think that if the socioeconomic positions were reversed, the current Iranian regime would have been any better than the US, or Israel?

You can quibble about death toll amounts and functional ability... but that doesn't change desire.

I do believe thinking in "equal to" terms needlessly belittles the death and destruction perpetrated by these tools... but only as much as quantifying them at all. These people are sick, twisted megalomaniacal dickbags who should be brought low. Sadly that only seems to happen at the whims of other sick, twisted megalomaniacal dickbags.

The best we can do is try and wedge ourselves into the cracks to push them all out of power while trying to stave off the opportunists who try and do the same.

And not bicker amongst ourselves about the level of evilness to quantify each by.

Oh, please. That's nitpicking bullshit. Nobody is trying to downplay the pure evil the US have brought to the world for decades. But acting as if the Iranian regime isn't as bad just because they don't tallied the same numbers is idiotic. I'd argue it's simply a lack of opportunity. All of those fuckers would make the world instantly better by dropping dead. That includes the governments in the US, Israel, Iran, Russia and China at the very least, plus a load of billionaires.

It seems like u are forgetting Iran finances a lot of Islamistic terror groups like Hisbollah, Hamas, Huthi, etc. that cause unrest in the whole region.

Im assuming youre not counting domestic evils, then.

They're a .mler — you didn't provide sources that were Russian or Chinese so lol get wrecked.

If you don't want to accept that your government lies and you blindly believe it, remember to shut up please.

You preemptively dismissed the notion that they are not credible as bullshit, do better. That's very intellectually dishonest.

Your first source, claiming the ridiculous 36,500 figure, is a London based Saudi funded progranda channel.

The second highest figure, repeated by all the other western media, comes from HRANA, which is US based with undisclosed funding. Their parent organization clearly says on their website that they receive funding from CIA-linked National Endowment for Democracy

HRAI Receives Donations From Individuals And Non-Profit Entities Only. Because The Organization Seeks To Remain Independent, It Doesn’t Accept Financial Aid From Neither Political Groups Nor Governments. These Limitations Are Essential To Maintaining Our Autonomy. Before March 2011, The Organization Received Donations Only From Members And Partners. But Since Then, HRAI Has Also Been Accepting Donations From National Endowment For Democracy, A Non-Profit, Non-Governmental Organization In The United States Of America.

https://www.hra-iran.org/introduction/

Totally trustworthy.