Its really sad that killing cops would not meaningfully fix any of our many many problems, because it would be so easy.

Because it's not just about their race. It's about all future races. It's about convincing people that the election process can't be trusted.

The sad thing is...that it's working.

Because it's right out of the Russian playbook to subvert elections, sow discord and disrupt institutions of democracy.

We saw why in 2020. If there's distrust, a certain side will have a tendency towards violence to get their way, results be damned.

You know it.

They already sort of are and that's a good thing. The way some elections work is there's a representative from both parties observing and counting the ballots. Then they can both check each other's work and make sure everything's above board.

This is why the whole election denial stuff is even more bullshit, they have official observers in there who can blow the whistle if they see anything but they never do. So they just rely on "reports" of other outside observers who think every truck moving around a polling spot is full of fraudulent ballots.

It probably shouldn't be just election workers as they're just selected by whoever applies to a temp job for a day or two, and it wouldn't take much for all those people to just happen to be partisans

I say we make copies of all the ballots and just make them public record. Anyone can access and do recounts or analysis or whatever.

so where do you see his name on the last ballot

Except for one of those two fascist idiots ending up being in charge of the state. THAT would be decidedly unfun.

The billionaires here would deserve it.

As I understand it (have friends that deal with this data), the ballots are anonymized so they can't back-associate the voting records to real ids. So at least there's that.

there is no real debate, just like there is no real debate that climate change is happening.

It is a ruse, a “big lie” repeated over and over again as a long-term strategy to gain authoritarian control.

there has never been any evidence of unregistered or unpermitted voters casting ballots beyond a few dozen isolated cases over the last 25 years - a vanishingly small occurrence among the billions of votes cast. Almost any method to “fix” those few dozen occurrences wipes out hundreds of thousands to many millions of valid voters; an intended result of the disenfranchisement strategy.

They don't want an accurate account so that way they can make up whatever number they want.....

there is no debate. it's done properly and thoroughly. the whining comes from republicans, who are the same people who whine that you must have rolled the dice wrong and you need to reroll (so they can really have one more turn) when you just won the game you were playing

Cost doesn't mean anything. It's just a play and another attempt to rile up the base.

I feel like this is the epitome of what is wrong with the modern world. Bad faith actors have learned how to exploit civility and eradicate truth.

• Find something you don't like and shriek, confidently, and without any evidence, that it is corrupt/bad/evil.
• Demand that a blatantly biased "authority" gets access to evidence so that they can "ensure" that is isn't corrupt/bad/evil.
• If you are denied, shriek some more and claim it's because they are hiding the truth and that it's obviously corrupt/bad/evil.
• If you aren't denied, have the "authority" verifying things lie and say that they discovered it's corrupt/bad/evil.
• If an independent authority authenticates that it isn't corrupt/bad/evil, call that authority corrupt/bad/evil and continue shrieking at the top of your lungs.
• Use either outcome as an excuse to take over and make things the way you want them to be without actual consensus.
• Whine and complain that you are a victimized minority and repeat.

Has there been some level of chain of custody oversight? What it he fucks with the ballots?