Pretty sure this wasn’t the second

What happened?

No. Let Manjaro die. It has no reason to exist in any form. Go contribute to something useful.

Except that I want the same release cycle as Manjaro. The only equivalent I have found so far seems to be OpenSuse Slowroll, in beta for the past 2 years.

Who renews certificates these days? You automate that now, especially with 47 day certs coming.

EndeavorOS too, which is even closer to "vanilla" Arch than CachyOS.

You are assuming that the cachy devs want the help of folks who have not demonstrated competence in their own project or want to do stuff how manjaro does

It's indeed the time. I found Cachy was a good pivot, similar feel but seems to work better overall. Manjaro is still based on Arch after all, technically.

I also started with Manjaro, but it's broken mess. I moved to Garuda and it has been completely solid and stable for over a year.

I moved to endeavour. With the same de it feels very similar.

I had been using Pop-os for about a year but wasn't completely happy with it. A friend suggested Bazzite and, to me, it was a lot better in some ways and worse in others. I've since switched to Fedora and don't really have any complaints. I don't plan on switching again baring something I don't see coming.

Is Kalpa still kickin?

Garuda and EndeavourOS btw.

Distros? Gotta catch them all.

Damn what a catchy name snaps fingers

I don't game on my laptop, so the benefits of CachyOS over my EndeavourOS are moot.

Manjaro was quite messy last time I tried it a couple of years ago.

I wouldn't necessarily say it's bad, but I don't use it because:

• The project's had a history of failing at really basic administrative tasks like keeping their ssl certificate up to date
• I'm unconvinced they actually do the testing that justifies the delays and not just using arch. This is because security patches sometimes also get delayed and issues have gotten past the delay
• They've accidentally DDoSed the aur multiple times by shipping broken versions of pamac when fixed versions were available
• I've seen complaints about leadership and how they handle finances, though I haven't really looked into this

It’s not so much that the distro is bad, but the leadership of the project, according to a lot of the community working on it, is very unresponsive, bad at administration, doesn’t make decisions that need to be made in a timely manner and not really doing their job. The community basically wants to cut them out and move on.

Don't worry, it's just the open-source version of the market correcting. There's no stock, no venture capital. If the group putting in time and effort to help maintain something doesn't like how the project is being run, they take a copy and start over with a new name. It's happened countless times on OS, it'll happen countless more. Often, the existing leadership is burned out, some of the more active members move on, and those left through attrition lack the skills to keep it going. The forks generally move forward faster and cleaner with more active people. Other than needing to change distros, it's pretty much a win.

I dont know about manjaro, but manjaro for arm is dead in the water and hasnt updated its packages from upstream (arch linux arm) in ages.
I assume regular manjaro has similar issues? Dont know though, and im guessing