I think if you look, not hard - just use your eyes like normal, you’ll find that idiot assholes come in all shapes, sizes, sexes, colors, religions, political/sexual orientation, whatever.
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If you are that worried that using a product with a gay promotional sign is going to turn you gay, you're already gay.
"I drink alcohol and fuck men, but I'm not gay. Keep that pork away from me".
This seems to be the most popular attitude among muslim men
The pork thing seems a lot more ingrained than the alcohol thing. Wonder if it has something to do with trichinosis.
i mean historically speaking that's probably a decent chunk of the reason for pork being against the dietary rules for those religions.
Maybe their invisible sky-Daddy just wanted to deny them the joys of bacon and crackling?
Let's face it, twisted "jokes" seem to be the MO, just look at Isaac
who could have predicted that forcing animals to live on human excrement and then consuming those animals would lead to stigmas about cleanliness
Probably because, even if you want to eat meat, it's easy go for alternatives. When it comes to alcohol, no easy alternative can be used.
Tbh, I’ve also known a lot of Jews who will eat a cheeseburger or shrimp, but not pork.
I grew up Catholic, but my dad can’t digest pork, so we never ate it or had it in the house growing up (turns out I can’t digest it either, which I didn’t learn until I inadvertently ate some at a restaurant as an adult). I’m now a vegan and I enjoy meat alternatives, but I have zero interest in anything that tries to seem like any pork products. I once got some ground fake meat that I thought was supposed to be beeflike, but it was modeled on pork and I had to give away the chili I had made because I couldn’t stomach it.
It’s a very strong taste and smell, so if you don’t grow up with it, it’s probably not something that actually appeals to you past curiosity about the whole bacon meme (it was way too heavy and the umami equivalent of sickly sweet imo and got stuck in my teeth more than I expected it to)
Kind of a tradition thing for me and my siblings. If you grew up thinking it's unedible then it becomes weird to eat.
For example most people from US would not eat cat meat even if they were given $10 to do it. No religious idea there it's just "culturally unedible."
This is different from octopus etc which are more so in "I didn't know people ate it but I was never told it can't be" or "neutral" territory.
Alcohol makes you look cool to your friends (at least they think so) and not eating pork makes you look cool to other muslims
Pigs are genetically really close to humans, so there's a lot of nasty stuff that can infect pigs that are transferable to humans. Probably way more cases of people getting parasites or diseases from pork than other protein sources in times past.
If you're looking at the minority that is specifically: "Men in western society who are Muslim in the same way Trump is Christian" then maybe.
Otherwise, the majority of Muslims do not drink alcohol.
With regards to the sexuality, then yes. There are a large number of Muslim men who are repressed LGBTQ individuals that are afraid of what their community might do to them. All of this is while Saudi Arabia also has full educational tracks segregated by gender worsening the sexual confusion of all minors, in addition to leading to abusive relationships (many of which involve minor sexual abuse).
It’s wild that no one’s pushed back on this. Most Muslims drink and have sex with other men? That’s a preposterous and bigoted claim.
Statista sucks, so this is the clearest archive version I can find, but in France, a western country with a well integrated Muslim population and a significant drinking culture, the largest demographic of Muslim drinkers were those over 50 at 30%, whereas those under 25 were at 15%, and presumably the 25-50 year olds look to drink at a rate of ~22-25%
Reminds me of an old friend of mine. Happy to get schlammered every weekend, but would get offended and take it personally if he was offered a ham sandwich or some bacon.
LOL as far as I know, there aren't levels of haram. I don't think you can pick and choose.
Alcohol is haram but the Pride flag is too much? Pal, when you're five shots in your sexuality is the least of your worries.
/r/thatsthejoke
OOP is obviously making a joke...
Good, you shouldn't get to enjoy the vastness of our world if you can't respect the fact that other people exist.
If memory serves me well, the drinking of alcohol is also forbidden.
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I knew a guy who was muslim.
He was an opiates addict but somehow alcohol was unallowed.
This is super common in Utah as well. Illicit drugs/alcohol are bad, but a doctor prescribes opiates so that's okay! Really hits women hard too since the only purpose you have is as a baby/homemaker, so getting high on prescription drugs is a fun hometime activity, just like it was back in the 50s!
I was a stay at home father for ten years and getting high was never something that I found atractive.
I read a lot, cooked extremely complex dishes, learned fermentation, bread making, several DIY, etc.
Why drugs?
Their body their choice. I know its really hard for people on this planet to accept, but thats how it is.
Dispose of you body as you choose. No concern there for me. Resort to drugs, that signals something is wrong. Met too many people that fell into drug abuse and the common denominator was always the same: their life was off. No friends, no family, no support, nothing and no one to rely onto. Drugs or alcohol are an easy way to dull the suffering.
Are we saying bored mothers are using drugs for fun or that they are miserable in their lives?
What recipe should I make? Bread or otherwise?
Maybe a form of Folk Islam?
The discussion of consuption of alcohol in the Muslim world is widely discussed, because the scriptures talk about the wine of an specific fruit, so it can be interpreted as just that fruit to any substance that alter your senses. Depending on how you want to read it.
Nah Absolut are just proud of their clever wink wink rainbow marketing that cleverly doesn’t say anything pro LGBTQ+ so people don’t… ah bollocks well they saw right through that one
Yes and no. It’s the 6 color rainbow which is specifically the LGBTQIA2S+ flag and not ROY G BIV. Those that use the 7 color rainbow are the ones trying to skirt the issue.
I thought Muslim people weren't supposed to drink.
Shares the same stupid monkey brain with bigots everywhere. And with the rest of us, unfortunately.
Can somebody please tell that to their governments, then?
I'm still trying to forget the videos where they tossed human beings from buildings, or slowly hang them up, just for loving the wrong person.
Since this is a picture of a liquor store with labeling in English, I'm guessing "their government" is in Washington DC. Or maybe London.
I'm not happy with everything their government is doing, either, but it's not easy to change.
It's nice you remember the original commenter there are Muslims outside of the middle-east, and this shop may well be outside in the middle east, but it's unlikely it is Washington DC or Londen considering nobody would get a bottle for $799.99 or £799.99.
Yeah. Brain fart by me. Only English is the absolut logos.
But I'm going to stand with the idea that a country with a government that executes people for being gay isn't going to have a liquor store showing corporate pride flags
And even in countries with those government, changing the government isn't a simple (or safe) thing.
Ah, Americans, so focused on the dysfunctionalities of other countries because US media uses them constantly to manufacture consent for war against them. Never gets old. Oh wait, it does.
Visiting Mynia Egypt in the eighties (famed as a center of conservative Islam), the male students I met in the tea houses didn’t seem to mind to deepen their friendships.
There's differece of opinion with alcohol. One school of jurisprudence goes by the ruling that it's the fermentation part that makes it haram, so synthetically made ethanol in a lab isn't haram if it's not used in levels that intoxicate, whereas another school says it's the actual intoxicating property of the chemical that's haram so you can't use it unless it's for necessary medical reasons and there's no alternative. I don't know what the other two schools say.
Ooh I actually have a cool example about last "shariah is just a law" part.
Islam is very much flexible in topic of health and you are allowed to use haram items like pork or alcohol products in medicine if no other options available.
Here is the cool part, even tho culturally there is still a lot of pushback and problems, gender dysphoria still falls under "health" and therefore treatments are protected under shariah.
Hence wikipedia articles like Transgender Rights in Iran have very surprising starts.

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