cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/65555474

Fork time? Maybe all the anti-systemd zealots were right all along...

Edit: To address whether it is likely that this change will affect users: Gnome is planning a stronger dependence on userdb, the part of systemd where this change is being implemented. https://blogs.gnome.org/adrianvovk/2025/06/10/gnome-systemd-dependencies/

Final edit: The PR has been merged into main.

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[–] 114 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Wow, who knew all systemd users were born on 01/01/1970? What a coincidence!

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  • [–] 42 points 7 months ago

    Imagine if using a dataset containing the same birthdate for everyone results in AIs predicting an upcoming mass extinction due to the entire worlds population being above a certain age. We could call it the epochalypse.

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  • [–] 55 points 7 months ago (15 children)

    Why does systemd need to verify age?

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  • [–] 29 points 7 months ago* (4 children)

    Because Meta's lobbying to kill the free and open internet, and personal computing as a concept. Also, MS, Apple, and Google are probably lobbying to kill their competition before it gets too great.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    I wonder if they have received directly some donations from that lobbying or signed some contract

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  • [–] 15 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    And yet those laws are definitely going to go to court and haven’t been passed yet even, so why the eagerness to comply???

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    They have been passed and will be enforced in like 2 years. They may be challenged, but it's not a guarantee that a court would oppose it.

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  • [–] 34 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Ada preparing to drop systemd

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  • [–] 31 points 7 months ago

    I'm really disappointed that someone hasn't just made a standalone userspace addon to implement the feature, shoved in down California's throat, and told them to come back with complaints once they can find where BSD came from.

    Adding this type of "support" is just giving legitimacy to crappy legislation. I would not bother even creating the underlying system so some underpaid google intern can make his age verification app 2% faster.

    This entire fiasco could have been a bash script that uses a new file in /etc to store birthdays.

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  • [–] 21 points 7 months ago

    Emmanuel Goldstein 123-45-6789 1-1-1970

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  • [–] 26 points 7 months ago

    Another patch should be added to rename "Systemd" to "Surveillanced".

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  • [–] 18 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    GNU Shepherd: Oh, oh, oh! Me, me, me! Pick me! 🖐️🖐️🖐️

    https://shepherding.services/

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    If this shitstorm keeps up, I will just build my own OS at some point

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    It is optional field and can be unset and set to arbitrary value by the administrator. If you can build your own OS, isn't it easier to just unset this value?

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    Void Linux with runit, here I come!

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    So are we jumping ships ? Where to I go, where do I go?

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Age verification is fucking scaremongering for this.

    It literally adds a field to record user ages. It doesn't verify anything.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    Artix chads rise up

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  • I've always been a systemd zealot but unfortunately its just too good at what it does.

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