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[–] 51 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Was this all an excuse to drum up support to leave NATO?

Trump starts war, asks NATO to help they refuse because it's a defensive pact he said screw you guys im out.

Russia profits

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  • [–] 32 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Finally, someone said no to him.

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    [–] 23 points 7 months ago

    Shocker. After he's been so nice and accommodating to them.

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  • [–] 22 points 7 months ago

    Why would anyone back him? He's the aggressor in this. He can sit in the pile of shit he created.

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  • [–] 17 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    That title is terrible

    Does it mean that he got rejected by NATO and allies to join mission, or did he get rejected by NATO, but allies will join him anyways?

    I'm guessing the former, but the title makes it sound like the latter.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    Neither: it's what he says: that he was rejected by NATO and most allies. Which means nothing since he's a liar and a fool. And, of course, in the same speech, he said (as he has said loudly before) that he doesn't need any allies, but also that he asked them for help and was told no.

    Consistency is not a strong point with fascists.

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  • [–] 17 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Most allies???

    Has ANYBODY said yes?

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    France has said they will once the missiles stop flying.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Not really. They said they'd be part of a diplomatic solution i think. That kinda means no really. Like if everyone agrees to stop then France will acknowledge everyone has stopped, or something.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago

    MORE! MORE! Rejection for the orange tumor. Its what is required to get rid of him.

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  • [–] 19 points 7 months ago

    So the local thug just asked the police to climb through the window he just broke. The thug is a convisted felon suspected of serious sex offences against children..... He beleives that the people living there are hiding unregistered guns, despite the same allegations repeatedly made over 30 years, by his dubious little friend who happens to be wanted by other police forces. The local police note that the home ownsrs openly allow local police to come and go as they wish to check the premises. No adverse findings. Local thug then takes to social media looking for justice from his own cronies.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago* (4 children)

    Sorry guys, Ima gonna have to cite some MAGA scripture on this one:

    https://www.thedailypoliticususa.com/p/jd-vance-blames-europeans-for-not

    “JD Vance sides with France over Bush on the Iraq War: ‘If the Europeans had been a little more independent, and a little more willing to stand up, then maybe we could have saved the entire world from the strategic disaster that was the American-led invasion of Iraq,’”

    ...

    So those who do help, you shit on and threaten, like Denmark and the UK. Those who don't, you freedom-fry them...then you keep hearing the pearls of wisdom above...looks like the only way to get some respect from trump and his toadies is to be a dictatorship and help russia/Iran. (And those who do offer actual help, like Ukraine, you reject)

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    “JD Vance sides with France over Bush on the Iraq War: ‘If the Europeans had been a little more independent, and a little more willing to stand up, then maybe we could have saved the entire world from the strategic disaster that was the American-led invasion of Iraq,’”

    It'd so cute when the conservatives pretend that they are for peace and not really for wars of choice and so on. It's weird how many liberals were told by conservatives that "freedom isn't free" and "you need to support the troops" in the run-up and the early days of the Iraq debacle.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago

    Let's see... If Putin had his way, what would the current US president be doing? Oh yeah, exactly this: manufacturing dissent between NATO members, the only thing keeping his warmongering appetite in check. 

    Even aside from logical reasons, Trump is so pathetic. I cannot wait for the day we no longer have to listen to this whiny bitch...

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  • [–] 15 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    What I dont get is on one hand: americans are

    • smartest
    • richest
    • biggest military
    • most belligerent
    • most paedofilic
    • most selfish country on the planet

    yet on the other hand they complain

    • why dont you like us
    • why dont you know where Idaho is
    • why cant i pay with mercan dollars
    • why cant i bring my planet killing pickup to your medieval village
    • why wont you fight my wars for me
    • give israel enough money that their citizens get free healthcare, education and subsidised housing while americans get none of it
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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (7 children)

    why cant i bring my planet killing pickup to your medieval village

    ?

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    There exists cities where the streets are older than America itself.

    The locals feel pressure to allow automobile traffic down these roads, and where space allows they generally do. It feels out of place.

    I have been to cities like this. I have driven cars in places like this (i lived internationally for a while) and it doesn't feel right. I don't have money to travel now, but if I did, I would just walk.

    There are cities that people still live in that predate the concept of street addresses and post offices and I have met them, and have had no idea what to put down on the bullshit forms at my bullshit job for their address.

    The world is large.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Dude, my house in Denmark is from 1779. Not quite as old as America, but i honestly believe the house will win in the end.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    Pretty good odds on that one especially given that the US is more or less actively collapsing and Denmark is well Denmark. Pretty sure you would have a weirdly easy time integrating a medieval Dane into modern Denmark than an 1800s American into the Modern US, especially if it was my ancestors who would probably start robbing trains and killing Mormons again once modernity pisses them off.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    There exists cities where the streets are older than America itself.

    i think this is true for majority of cities outside the us of a...

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    Yes, and Americans know this is true but they forget how it might change their perspective of the world.

    Its like that old joke: two fish meet in the ocean. The first fish says "hey how are ya, how's the water?" And the second fish says, "what's water?"

    Most of the people I know are working class and can't travel overseas for vacation (if they even can afford to have one). Seeing it on TV is completely different than experiencing it.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    In England, I lived in a house built in the early 1600s. It was nice, though there were no longer any right angles or level floors in the place. When I bought a place, I went for something more modern, built in the 1880s.

    There's a pub not far from here that was built in the mid-800s, though it wasn't always used as a pub. It started as a longhouse: animals at one end, people at the other, fire pit on the floor in the middle. Now that it's a pub, based on the clientele I've seen in there, the animals are at both ends.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    Nato, I like you do you like me too?

    ⬜Yes ❎No

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    [–] 51 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Must be tough for him, asking for consent is not something he's used to

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  • I don't understand. Wasn't the turd bragging not long ago about how it has the bestest strongestest military of the world and doesn't need any help from NATO? Why the tamtrum now?

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  • [–] 26 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Didn’t he ask for China’s help recently? Nothing projects strength like begging for help from the people you supposedly have some grand plan to hinder in some way.

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  • [–] 21 points 7 months ago

    Why are the people he stabbed in the back not helping him?

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  • [+] 21 points 7 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 16 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    The title is really poorly punctuated I think. I think it's trying to say "Trump says he's been rejected by NATO/most allies to join mission to secure critical Strait of Hormuz"

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    It's a bad case of news title wording which is a holdover from newspaper days. There's little reason to economize on letters now and people could be writing proper grammatical sentences instead, but they don't.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Most ships are.not "flagged" in the US, small obscure countries make money his way.

    Most ships are not heading to the US but eventually the energy will generate trade which will head to the US.

    US economy benefits a lot by having the US dollar as the world currency. "Petrodollar". By crashing the global economy with oil and an Idiot to blame for causing the mess, Iran can destabilize that whole economic balance.

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  • [–] 18 points 7 months ago

    Dunno why, mate, the very people you've threatened with taking their independence from, for "strategic" reasons, now don't want to help you in a war you started completely unnecessarily? That's a real head scratcher...

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Next time build your coalition before going to war. This is all on Trump and Netanyahu. They own this shit.

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago

    "Trump says he's been rejected by all of the people he called losers and cheapskates. Considering new insults to get them back on board." That should be the headline big media.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago

    You can't invoke Article 5 if you did the attacking.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago

    It's like a school bully crying because nobody came to his birthday party.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    After everything he did for them. What a bunch of ungrateful bastards! Not even Greenland as conciliatory gift, such a jerks.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    Right now it is in the interest of other NATO countries to see the US weakened militarily and politically. The US stopped being an ally as soon as Trump threatened to annex Canada and Greenland.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago

    he will use this as an excuse to leave NATO.

    a false flag attack will happen with the four stolen USAF drones.

    and WW3 will begin soon after.

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    Bully plays victim, film at 11.

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    These keep getting more surreal lol.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Oh this is an old one back from when he originally did it to Zelenskyy and I was so embarrassed by the government that I wanted to turn inside out 🫠

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  • [–] 19 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Even after they made him beg like a dog 🐶

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  • [–] 16 points 7 months ago

    Trump’s wrong. He hasn’t been rejected by ANY of his allies.

    Those he’s previously broken alliances with? Sure.

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  • [–] 17 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah, no shit! No one else wants involved in Israel's war and Trump's done nothing but badmouth the leaders of every other country in NATO.

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  • [+] -7 points 7 months ago

    It's not Israel's war. Israel is just a proxy for the western nations against Iran and other middle eastern powers. Trump just went off half cocked again instead of following the steady plan to keep them subdued, which is why the rest of the countries are standing back.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    Maybe if he renames it the Strait of America they will be more inclined to help

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago
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    Pretty much everyone in Europe is pissed at Trump for helping Russia successfully attack European land, and now he doesn't understand why we're not buddies? Eat shit krasnov.

    At least Ukraine actually offered assistance in dealing with drones in ME, but your highness got insulted at that idea because that would annoy your buddy Putin

    EDIT: Oh, and he just lifted some of the sanctions right at the time when Russian economy finally started showing red flags, essentially saving them.

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    [–] 12 points 7 months ago

    But I thought that the "greatest military in the world" wouldn't need help for a war that has "already been won"?

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    I'd reject him too

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago*

    I guess he has his Board of Peace to support his war

    Edit: /s

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    Sounds like there may be trust issues.

    Committing to predictable processes, working closely with advisors, and studiously respecting the rules of established laws can really help build trust.

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